Police Folk Allegedly Behaving Badly

[lenaitch]

I wasn't sure if this fit in the 'bad things' or 'good things' thread, but Hank Idsinga, former head of TPS Homicide, is out with a book that is pretty scathing about senior command. Print articles in the G&M and Star.

I'll bet he doesn't go to their Senior Officers annual mess dinner.

https://www.cbc.ca/player/play/video/9.7172163

 

[dapaterson]

Stalker uses MTO information to find women, crashes police car into ex girlfriend's vehicle.

No criminal charges. And am 18 month temporary demotion.

Obviously, it's Ottawa.

Ottawa police officer demoted for unauthorized searches into ex-partners and others

Under a settlement, Const. Jerome Rabiha-Stevens will be demoted from first-class constable to second-class constable for 18 months.

ottawacitizen.com

 

[brihard]

Stalker uses MTO information to find women, crashes police car into ex girlfriend's vehicle.

No criminal charges. And am 18 month temporary demotion.

Obviously, it's Ottawa.

Ottawa police officer demoted for unauthorized searches into ex-partners and others

Under a settlement, Const. Jerome Rabiha-Stevens will be demoted from first-class constable to second-class constable for 18 months.

ottawacitizen.com

It’s weird, sometimes they go criminal on these blatant abuse of database cases, sometimes they don’t. There should be more consistency.

And more firing of the corrupt.

 

[Eaglelord17]

It’s weird, sometimes they go criminal on these blatant abuse of database cases, sometimes they don’t. There should be more consistency.

And more firing of the corrupt.

Shouldn’t even necessarily need a conviction for the firing. With the amount of trust placed in police officers by the public the process to get fired should be a relatively low bar to hit.

It should not be easier to get fired from McDonalds than the police.

 

[brihard]

Shouldn’t even necessarily need a conviction for the firing. With the amount of trust placed in police officers by the public the process to get fired should be a relatively low bar to hit.

It should not be easier to get fired from McDonalds than the police.

Yes, can absolutely be fired without criminal conviction. Police can be fired for misconduct, or discharged for various administrative reasons such as loss of basic job requirements, long term disability etc.

However, any firings would get grieved and appealed, and courts will weigh them against other cases. Generally it takes a clear, intentional, and communicated shift in direction with disciplinary matters for a police service to say “this category of misconduct will be treated more seriously from now on”. It does happen but it’s not common.