ballz said:
Doesn't seem very fiction-like now that it has happened... how would we have ever predicted something like this :
https://globalnews.ca/news/5326941/nanaimo-woman-wins-court-challenge-breathalyzer/?utm_source=GlobalBC&utm_medium=Facebook&fbclid=IwAR2s7inzWMiqmZh2XFwO7a8KXjNGQLz0nPcpIhCvO5AflI_pl2j8W3GjmLg
Pretty ******* sad state of affairs. How many more people are we going to violate and string them through the legal process because of the Charter violations in this law, before we just throw the garbage out?
I stand by what I said. The original story was garbage, and based off a shoddy understanding of the law. It presented a fiction that someone could be convicted of impaired driving based on police arbitrarily arriving at their house hours after driving and demanding random breath samples. That remains patently untrue to anyone who has paid sufficient attention as to actually understand the law in detail.
This current news story presents only one side of whatever it was that happened. It does not elucidate on what led police to be arriving at that particular residence to conduct an impaired driving investigation, nor how it was that the specific driver in question was identified. Very clearly there was a sufficiently detailed report to police to cause them concerns leading to a door knock.
The new law does not allow for police to conduct Mandatory Alcohol Screening under S.320.27(2) unless a person is presently operating a motor vehicle. You cannot do a random compulsory demand inside a residence. The only powers that let you demand a breath sample in a residence are those that already existed before the new law came into effect. A police officer following up on a complaint who does not find the driver driving must, before requiring an Approved Screening Device sample be provided, form a reasonable suspicion that the person within the preceding three hours was operating a conveyance with alcohol in their body. An admission to having had one drink at the bar and then driven would suffice for that. It's incumbent on the officer to consider things like intervening drinks, however that doesn't rule out investigation, samples and charges if they have enough info to work with (e.g., how many drinks over what span of time).
Also, not that charges were not laid. This was a proceeding under British Columbia's Immediate Roadside Prohibition. No criminal conviction can result from that it's a purely administrative measure that still has some avenues of appeal- which were successfully exercised in this case.
I don't know any more about the case than what's written in the news, and my knowledge of the law as actually written. I will speculate that one of two things happened:
- The officers misunderstood the application of the new provisions for Mandatory Alcohol Screening and did something they're not allowed to do. That's not a problem inherent in the law, that's a training and supervision issue. This seems, on the test of simplicity, to be the more likely case, because IRPs are reasonably tough to get dismissed. Or:
- The officers acted properly on reasonable suspicion and got an ASD sample, but failed to adequately articulate their observations or evidence in their report, leaving the appeal authority unable to find themselves convinced that the IRP was valid. Definitely possible.
I will further speculate that had this happened in any other province, and presupposing that officers had the necessary reasonable suspicion for an ASD test and the resultant 'fail', they would then have demanded breath samples from an approved instrument, and if samples came in over .08 BAC, charges would have been laid under S.320.14(1)(b), the 'within two hours of driving, over 80' provision. In that case, the defense could argue that their client met the three conditions given in 320.14(5) of 1. Consumed alcohol after ceasing to operate; 2. Had no reasonable expectation tat they would be investigated and required to provide a sample (e.g., hit and run, fled from police), and 3. Their BAC as measured is consistent, given intervening drinks, of having been under the limit at time of driving.
So, as I said- we have one half of a story, and we simply won't get the other half. But none of what I read here, in my fairly informed opinion, suggests to me that what happened is due to any inherent flaw in the new law. Again, to reiterate, because apparently it's necessary to, police have no new legal power to demand a breath sample inside a residence that they did not have before.