Czech_pivo
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Not if his plan is to bring Russia into the US camp against China and have Russia sell the same minerals to the US over selling them to China.
Political impacts of Ukraine war
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Czech_pivo
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They need to station them in Poland....that would make Russia sit up and notice. Right on the border of Russia (Kaliningrad oblast).France getting more serious about European capabilities relevant to the UKR-RUS war…
France Eyeing Deployment Of Nuclear-Armed Rafale Fighters To Germany: Report
Amid concerns over U.S. commitment to European security, France is mulling the extension of its nuclear umbrella farther across Europe. The latest proposal reportedly involves the deployment of nuclear-armed French fighter jets in Germany.www.twz.com
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The stupid thing is that Trump could have gotten the same deal or very similar without the theatrics and without beating up Ukraine.
Zelensky agrees to US minerals deal after Trump rows back demands
Ukrainian president will meet with his US counterpart in Washington DC to sign the pactwww.telegraph.co.uk
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It's not that he has to win, it's that other people have to lose.
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Case study for Canada, once he's sorted things out with USSR 2.0?
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Or is it just that he has to see his name in the news?
He pretty much grew up (if he did, indeed, grow up) on Page 6.
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I am starting to think he would rather be loudly wrong than quietly right.
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Opinion piece on the Trump deal for Ukraine. Bunch of snips below, more on the article:
-The deal gives the U.S. access to much-needed rare earth minerals and helps us recoup some of our investment in the Ukraine war. A win the the US.
-It helps rebuild Ukraine’s economy and infrastructure. It puts thousands of American engineers, miners, builders and even bankers on the ground in eastern Ukraine, serving as a security guarantee to Ukraine. A win for Ukraine.
-It gives the U.S. an opening to a better relationship with Russia with an aim to driving a wedge in the anti-American Sino-Russian alliance. A win for the U.S. and our allies.
-It gives Russia an off-ramp to a difficult war and holds open the possibility of improved relations with the U.S., including in trade and investment. A win for Russia
An American economic presence will serve as a guarantor of Ukrainian independence and security, and a deterrent to another Russian invasion. Putin is not going to kill thousands of American civilians to get to Kyiv.
In some ways, an American economic presence in Ukraine is even more significant than a military presence. As we saw with Biden and Afghanistan, an American president can order the sudden withdrawal of military forces (as he states he's ok with a minor incursion - QV). Private American companies with long-term projects and contracts would be in Ukraine for the long haul.
Under the Trump plan, five years after the fighting stops, Ukraine could be a prosperous country, with an economy and society fully integrated with the U.S. and the West. On the other hand, Russia’s post-war prospects are bleak. No one will rush to rebuild Russia’s economy. Its energy export revenues will fall precipitously, with the lower oil and natural gas global prices brought about by Trump’s new policy of American energy dominance.
Finally, Trump’s peace plan holds open the possibility of an improved American relationship with Russia. We have had no diplomatic contact with Russia in the three years since Putin invaded Ukraine.
The greatest strategic and existential threat to the United States isn’t from Ukraine, or the Middle East, or even Russia. It is from a Sino-Russian alliance aimed at the United States. Our refusal to talk to Russia for the last three years is one reason Putin has grown closer to Chinese President Xi. In the early 1970s, my boss, Henry Kissinger, drove a wedge between the anti-American Sino-Soviet alliance by opening relations with China. Potentially, Trump could do the same thing today, this time by reopening relations with Russia.
www.foxnews.com
-The deal gives the U.S. access to much-needed rare earth minerals and helps us recoup some of our investment in the Ukraine war. A win the the US.
-It helps rebuild Ukraine’s economy and infrastructure. It puts thousands of American engineers, miners, builders and even bankers on the ground in eastern Ukraine, serving as a security guarantee to Ukraine. A win for Ukraine.
-It gives the U.S. an opening to a better relationship with Russia with an aim to driving a wedge in the anti-American Sino-Russian alliance. A win for the U.S. and our allies.
-It gives Russia an off-ramp to a difficult war and holds open the possibility of improved relations with the U.S., including in trade and investment. A win for Russia
An American economic presence will serve as a guarantor of Ukrainian independence and security, and a deterrent to another Russian invasion. Putin is not going to kill thousands of American civilians to get to Kyiv.
In some ways, an American economic presence in Ukraine is even more significant than a military presence. As we saw with Biden and Afghanistan, an American president can order the sudden withdrawal of military forces (as he states he's ok with a minor incursion - QV). Private American companies with long-term projects and contracts would be in Ukraine for the long haul.
Under the Trump plan, five years after the fighting stops, Ukraine could be a prosperous country, with an economy and society fully integrated with the U.S. and the West. On the other hand, Russia’s post-war prospects are bleak. No one will rush to rebuild Russia’s economy. Its energy export revenues will fall precipitously, with the lower oil and natural gas global prices brought about by Trump’s new policy of American energy dominance.
Finally, Trump’s peace plan holds open the possibility of an improved American relationship with Russia. We have had no diplomatic contact with Russia in the three years since Putin invaded Ukraine.
The greatest strategic and existential threat to the United States isn’t from Ukraine, or the Middle East, or even Russia. It is from a Sino-Russian alliance aimed at the United States. Our refusal to talk to Russia for the last three years is one reason Putin has grown closer to Chinese President Xi. In the early 1970s, my boss, Henry Kissinger, drove a wedge between the anti-American Sino-Soviet alliance by opening relations with China. Potentially, Trump could do the same thing today, this time by reopening relations with Russia.
Trump’s Art of the Deal turns around an unwinnable war against Ukraine
Trump is known for the Art of the Deal and he showed that with his Ukraine war peace negotiations. He is taking an unwinnable conflict and helping everyone win the peace.
www.foxnews.com
GR66
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Who says that granting the US mineral rights will put "thousands of American engineers, miners, builders and even bankers on the ground in eastern Ukraine"? They are being granted in effect "royalties" on any economic output. Ukrainian companies and workers working on the ground to pour profits into their American partner companies.Opinion piece on the Trump deal for Ukraine. Bunch of snips below, more on the article:
-The deal gives the U.S. access to much-needed rare earth minerals and helps us recoup some of our investment in the Ukraine war. A win the the US.
-It helps rebuild Ukraine’s economy and infrastructure. It puts thousands of American engineers, miners, builders and even bankers on the ground in eastern Ukraine, serving as a security guarantee to Ukraine. A win for Ukraine.
-It gives the U.S. an opening to a better relationship with Russia with an aim to driving a wedge in the anti-American Sino-Russian alliance. A win for the U.S. and our allies.
-It gives Russia an off-ramp to a difficult war and holds open the possibility of improved relations with the U.S., including in trade and investment. A win for Russia
An American economic presence will serve as a guarantor of Ukrainian independence and security, and a deterrent to another Russian invasion. Putin is not going to kill thousands of American civilians to get to Kyiv.
In some ways, an American economic presence in Ukraine is even more significant than a military presence. As we saw with Biden and Afghanistan, an American president can order the sudden withdrawal of military forces (as he states he's ok with a minor incursion - QV). Private American companies with long-term projects and contracts would be in Ukraine for the long haul.
Under the Trump plan, five years after the fighting stops, Ukraine could be a prosperous country, with an economy and society fully integrated with the U.S. and the West. On the other hand, Russia’s post-war prospects are bleak. No one will rush to rebuild Russia’s economy. Its energy export revenues will fall precipitously, with the lower oil and natural gas global prices brought about by Trump’s new policy of American energy dominance.
Finally, Trump’s peace plan holds open the possibility of an improved American relationship with Russia. We have had no diplomatic contact with Russia in the three years since Putin invaded Ukraine.
The greatest strategic and existential threat to the United States isn’t from Ukraine, or the Middle East, or even Russia. It is from a Sino-Russian alliance aimed at the United States. Our refusal to talk to Russia for the last three years is one reason Putin has grown closer to Chinese President Xi. In the early 1970s, my boss, Henry Kissinger, drove a wedge between the anti-American Sino-Soviet alliance by opening relations with China. Potentially, Trump could do the same thing today, this time by reopening relations with Russia.
Trump’s Art of the Deal turns around an unwinnable war against Ukraine
Trump is known for the Art of the Deal and he showed that with his Ukraine war peace negotiations. He is taking an unwinnable conflict and helping everyone win the peace.
QV
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You will have to take that up with the author, a former Deputy National Security Advisor to Trump and presently a board member of the American Conservative Union. I would hazard she is correct and their would be American's on the ground working.
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Trump: EU was formed to screw USA – and they’ve done a good job of it
US president uses first cabinet meeting to double down on his plans to make Canada America’s 51st state
www.telegraph.co.uk
If that was the case then he might want to take it up with his State Department. It was done not just with the complicity of George C. Marshall but with his active encouragement. The Americans were some of the loudest opponents of Brexit because it would harm the European Project.
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The EU may not have been formed to screw the US, but...
www.telegraph.co.uk
531 - 333 Euros = 200 Euros or 210 USD, not 300 USD.
It appears that Trump is doing the same to the EU that he is to Canada. Our calculations suggest a number closer to 100 BUSD than the 200 BUSD that Trump claims.
But we are somewhere between 20 and 80 BUSD short on defence expenditures according to Trump.
Likewise the Europeans are short on covering off their defence. An article read recently, in a European paper, asserted that the US covers 1/3 to 1/2 of Europe's defence costs. That seems to be borne out by this article.
www.bruegel.org
It may be necessary to spike the Euro budget in the short term. It may be possible to pull back a bit over time once the warehouses are properly filled and an effective force is trained and made available.
And on effective forces
My money always bets on inefficiencies. It the Euros want to replace 300,000 cohesive Americans then they should plan on raising 500,000 local troops organized under half-a-dozen local national Corps (UK, France, Germany, Poland, Italy for starters)
Trump has a point – the EU does ‘screw’ America
US president aims to address steep trade imbalances with plans for 25pc tariffs
www.telegraph.co.uk
531 - 333 Euros = 200 Euros or 210 USD, not 300 USD.
It appears that Trump is doing the same to the EU that he is to Canada. Our calculations suggest a number closer to 100 BUSD than the 200 BUSD that Trump claims.
But we are somewhere between 20 and 80 BUSD short on defence expenditures according to Trump.
Likewise the Europeans are short on covering off their defence. An article read recently, in a European paper, asserted that the US covers 1/3 to 1/2 of Europe's defence costs. That seems to be borne out by this article.
Defending Europe without the US: first estimates of what is needed
Europe could need 300,000 more troops and an annual defence spending hike of at least €250 billion in the short term to deter Russian aggression
www.bruegel.org
It may be necessary to spike the Euro budget in the short term. It may be possible to pull back a bit over time once the warehouses are properly filled and an effective force is trained and made available.
And on effective forces
My money always bets on inefficiencies. It the Euros want to replace 300,000 cohesive Americans then they should plan on raising 500,000 local troops organized under half-a-dozen local national Corps (UK, France, Germany, Poland, Italy for starters)
daftandbarmy
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The EU may not have been formed to screw the US, but...
Trump has a point – the EU does ‘screw’ America
US president aims to address steep trade imbalances with plans for 25pc tariffs
531 - 333 Euros = 200 Euros or 210 USD, not 300 USD.
It appears that Trump is doing the same to the EU that he is to Canada. Our calculations suggest a number closer to 100 BUSD than the 200 BUSD that Trump claims.
But we are somewhere between 20 and 80 BUSD short on defence expenditures according to Trump.
Likewise the Europeans are short on covering off their defence. An article read recently, in a European paper, asserted that the US covers 1/3 to 1/2 of Europe's defence costs. That seems to be borne out by this article.
Defending Europe without the US: first estimates of what is needed
Europe could need 300,000 more troops and an annual defence spending hike of at least €250 billion in the short term to deter Russian aggression
It may be necessary to spike the Euro budget in the short term. It may be possible to pull back a bit over time once the warehouses are properly filled and an effective force is trained and made available.
And on effective forces
My money always bets on inefficiencies. It the Euros want to replace 300,000 cohesive Americans then they should plan on raising 500,000 local troops organized under half-a-dozen local national Corps (UK, France, Germany, Poland, Italy for starters)
The EU might not survive the Trump Presidency....
The Transatlantic Alliance in the Age of Trump: The Coming Collisions
Introduction
The United States and Europe are on a collision course that will fundamentally alter and transform transatlantic relations. It is not just one issue that will trigger a clash but seemingly every issue. From NATO to Ukraine, climate to trade, tech regulations to China, the United States and Europe will likely clash, repeatedly and continuously. The impact of these collisions will be transformative for transatlantic relations and will reshape the transatlantic alliance. Europe is now staring at the beginning of a new post-American age. Since the end of World War II, Europe has been inextricably tied to the United States. While there have occasionally been rifts in the transatlantic fabric, these were always mendable. But the clashes that are coming may not be, and they may forever change the nature of transatlantic relations. Europe is now reckoning with a potential future where it may have to chart its own course.
The Transatlantic Alliance in the Age of Trump: The Coming Collisions
Europe is now staring at the beginning of a new post-American age. The policy collisions to come will be transformative for transatlantic relations and will reshape the transatlantic alliance.
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The EU - A Hard Crust and a Soft Interior?
JEF - Visegrad - Ukraine - Turkey? The Crust?
Western Europe? The Soft Interior?
I've gone over JEF too many times. Boring.
JEF has found common ground with Poland and Czechia of the Visegrad group. Hungary is a problem child and Slovakia is variable.
Romania, Bulgaria and Moldova - I suspect - feel weak and need a strong patron to support them. They are going to need something really strong to replace what they thought they had with the Americans.
Is this a possibility?
Denmark (Greenland), Iceland, Denmark (Faroes), UK, Netherlands, Denmark, Norway, Sweden, Finland, Estonia, Latvia, Lithuania, Poland, Czechia, Slovakia, Ukraine, Moldova, Romania, Bulgaria, Turkey?
Is there enough strength there to support a strong independent foreign policy?
Everything west of that crust, to my mind seems to lack cohesion. They have nothing to focus their attention.
JEF - Visegrad - Ukraine - Turkey? The Crust?
Western Europe? The Soft Interior?
I've gone over JEF too many times. Boring.
JEF has found common ground with Poland and Czechia of the Visegrad group. Hungary is a problem child and Slovakia is variable.
Romania, Bulgaria and Moldova - I suspect - feel weak and need a strong patron to support them. They are going to need something really strong to replace what they thought they had with the Americans.
Is this a possibility?
Denmark (Greenland), Iceland, Denmark (Faroes), UK, Netherlands, Denmark, Norway, Sweden, Finland, Estonia, Latvia, Lithuania, Poland, Czechia, Slovakia, Ukraine, Moldova, Romania, Bulgaria, Turkey?
Is there enough strength there to support a strong independent foreign policy?
Everything west of that crust, to my mind seems to lack cohesion. They have nothing to focus their attention.
