Political impacts of Ukraine war

[daftandbarmy]

The US is leaving and going home, the Euros are too weak, poor and divided to take their place, and Ukraine is outnumbered by a significant margin and losing on the battlefield so "Russia will win an ugly victory" and probably wind up permanently occupying around 40% of Ukraine ....

Professor John Mearsheimer on why a Russia-Ukraine peace deal is impossible​

Freddy Gray is joined once again by the University of Chicago’s Professor John Mearsheimer to discuss why Trump’s 28-point Ukraine peace plan won’t work, how the war will ultimately be decided on the battlefield, and what happened when Jeffrey Epstein and Alan Dershowitz ran a smear campaign against him over his essay on the Israel lobby.

 

[HavokFour]

Highly effective sanctions, expect to see more.

In a statement, Besiktas Shipping said it was ceasing all operations with Russia immediately and that it would no longer take any Russia-related voyages.

Owner of oil tanker damaged near Senegal says it is ceasing all Russian operations

Besiktas Shipping, the Turkish owner of an oil tanker that was damaged near Senegal's coast last week after being hit by four external explosions, said on Tuesday that it was ceasing all shipping operations involving Russian interests.

www.reuters.com

And talks have stalled again. Surprise.

The planned Brussels briefing was abruptly abandoned after Steve Witkoff’s five-hour session with Putin failed to produce a deal

Zelensky’s meeting with US envoy cancelled after Ukraine peace talks stall

Latest news and updates on Ukraine peace deal as Brussels briefing called off

www.thetimes.com

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[Czech_pivo]

A trickle of re-supply to the Ukrainians

https://www.cbc.ca/news/politics/anand-mcguinty-nato-ukraine-9.7001195

Canada pledges more than $200M in funding for Ukraine at NATO meeting​

Latest donation comes as U.S.-backed peace proposal receives cool reception in Moscow​

Since Moscow's invasion of Ukraine in February 2022, Canada has committed $22 billion in assistance to Ukraine, including $6.5 billion in military aid.

 

[Rifleman62]

America could very easily give Ukraine enough to cripple Russia.

Yes, but there is no Personal Profit for the insiders.

Three out of five US negotiators are businessmen. What does that tell you?

Russia is not going to stop at the Ukraine. The Baltic states are next. Putin doesn't give a shit about the 1.2 million casualties.

 

[Czech_pivo]

Yes, but there is no Personal Profit for the insiders.

Three out of five US negotiators are businessmen. What does that tell you?

Russia is not going to stop at the Ukraine. The Baltic states are next. Putin doesn't give a shit about the 1.2 million casualties.

As long as Russia has a sizeable nuclear force they are golden. They don't give a crap about losses or declining demographics - been there, done that.

They had declining demographics after the Russian Civil war from 1917-1924, during the Holodomor, during WW2, during the early 1990s, now - its doesn't phase them at all.

 

[KevinB]

As long as Russia has a sizeable nuclear force they are golden. They don't give a crap about losses or declining demographics - been there, done that.

They had declining demographics after the Russian Civil war from 1917-1924, during the Holodomor, during WW2, during the early 1990s, now - its doesn't phase them at all.

And how’d WWI work out for old Nicholas…

 

[RangerRay]

Yes, but there is no Personal Profit for the insiders.

Three out of five US negotiators are businessmen. What does that tell you?

Russia is not going to stop at the Ukraine. The Baltic states are next. Putin doesn't give a shit about the 1.2 million casualties.

Agreed, but I think they’ll go back to something easier to chew that might divide NATO, like Moldova or Georgia.

 

[Brad Sallows]

The US is leaving and going home, the Euros are too weak, poor and divided to take their place, and Ukraine is outnumbered by a significant margin and losing on the battlefield so "Russia will win an ugly victory" and probably wind up permanently occupying around 40% of Ukraine

The US left and went home in 2014. The Euros had several years to become not-weak and did pretty much nothing. The current phase of the war started in early 2022.

Not sure why anyone in the chattering classes is still bitching. Maybe they strenuously lobbied and criticized the governments in a position to take meaningful action at the time.

 

[Brad Sallows]

Yes, but there is no Personal Profit for the insiders.

Three out of five US negotiators are businessmen. What does that tell you?

Russia is not going to stop at the Ukraine. The Baltic states are next. Putin doesn't give a shit about the 1.2 million casualties.

Cold War 2.0.

I remember the good old days of Cold War 1.0. The Soviets were big bad guys who were always imminently about to overrun Europe and, for various self-serving reasons, there were plenty of people in "the West" willing to prop up that imagery.

Now it's the Russian stump of the former USSR facing off most of Europe in NATO/EU and there are still court jesters playing the song.

 

[Kirkhill]

Highly effective sanctions, expect to see more.

Owner of oil tanker damaged near Senegal says it is ceasing all Russian operations

Besiktas Shipping, the Turkish owner of an oil tanker that was damaged near Senegal's coast last week after being hit by four external explosions, said on Tuesday that it was ceasing all shipping operations involving Russian interests.

www.reuters.com

And talks have stalled again. Surprise.

Zelensky’s meeting with US envoy cancelled after Ukraine peace talks stall

Latest news and updates on Ukraine peace deal as Brussels briefing called off

www.thetimes.com

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My problem with sanctions relates to the same problem that riot police have with kettling and that engineers have with nuclear reactors. Containment is a strategy that works in conjunction with pressurization ... until you reach critical mass. To mix my metaphors further, what do the rats do when you have them cornered?

Old time farmers left a tuft of standing corn in the middle of the field, put a ring of fire aound it and waited for the fire to reach the tuft. They then slaughtered any escaping survivors.

Life gets brutal sometimes.