Political impacts of Ukraine war

[Nvlgzr]

How about this one -

US has floated Ukraine ceding Donbas for Nato membership, Zelensky says

The Ukrainian president says US envoys touted the exchange as part of efforts to end the war with Russia.

www.bbc.com

US has floated Ukraine ceding Donbas for Nato membership, Zelensky says​

US negotiators have touted the idea of Ukraine withdrawing its remaining forces from the eastern Donbas region in exchange for Nato membership, Volodymyr Zelensky has said.

I hear Chamberlain's ghost has been seen by some in the rooms and corridors during these meetings. Those that see him swear that they hear him muttering 'Land for Peace, land for Peace, don't fall for that trap as I did.'

Witkof and Kushner aren’t negotiating on US, NATO nor Ukraine’s behalf. This is for Putins benefit. Same with eliminating the sanctions on Russian fuels. Making Putin happy makes Donald happy. The 3 of them are vested in Russian Lukoil. Always follow the money.

 

[The Bread Guy]

How about this one -

US has floated Ukraine ceding Donbas for Nato membership, Zelensky says

The Ukrainian president says US envoys touted the exchange as part of efforts to end the war with Russia.

www.bbc.com

US has floated Ukraine ceding Donbas for Nato membership, Zelensky says​

US negotiators have touted the idea of Ukraine withdrawing its remaining forces from the eastern Donbas region in exchange for Nato membership, Volodymyr Zelensky has said ...

Yeah, I can see consensus among NATO countries (I'm looking at you, Hungary, for one) on letting in a country with what'll certainly end up involved in a border dispute needing an Article 5.

 

[Czech_pivo]

Is there any compromise on its territorial integrity that would be acceptable or reasonable? To Ukrainians and others?
Luhansk and Crimea for example?

Would there be any piece of our land that would be acceptable if the US or someone else was insisting on it?
Yukon?
Labrador?
X piece?

 

[Czech_pivo]

The look on Zelenskyy’s face says “This is a complete waste of time”.
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As bad as Chamberlain’s deal was, at least he was motivated by buying time for Britain and France to rebuild their militaries and prepare for war with Germany.

I’m confident that is not what is motivating the White House.

I have zero doubt that NATO would make it well past the Urals right here right now against Russia if Nukes were off the table.

 

[The Bread Guy]

Meanwhile, on that whole satellite teminal unpleasantness ...

Zelensky Escalates Criticism of SpaceX Over Speed Caps - The Moscow Times

Ukraine's President Volodymyr Zelensky escalated his criticism of SpaceX on Saturday, saying speed restrictions on its military-grade Starshield satellite terminals had dangerous political implications and undermined critical air defenses.

www.themoscowtimes.com

 

[suffolkowner]

Would there be any piece of our land that would be acceptable if the US or someone else was insisting on it?
Yukon?
Labrador?
X piece?

ask me after 12 years of war