Witkof and Kushner aren’t negotiating on US, NATO nor Ukraine’s behalf. This is for Putins benefit. Same with eliminating the sanctions on Russian fuels. Making Putin happy makes Donald happy. The 3 of them are vested in Russian Lukoil. Always follow the money.How about this one -
US has floated Ukraine ceding Donbas for Nato membership, Zelensky says
The Ukrainian president says US envoys touted the exchange as part of efforts to end the war with Russia.www.bbc.com
US has floated Ukraine ceding Donbas for Nato membership, Zelensky says
US negotiators have touted the idea of Ukraine withdrawing its remaining forces from the eastern Donbas region in exchange for Nato membership, Volodymyr Zelensky has said.
I hear Chamberlain's ghost has been seen by some in the rooms and corridors during these meetings. Those that see him swear that they hear him muttering 'Land for Peace, land for Peace, don't fall for that trap as I did.'
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Yeah, I can see consensus among NATO countries (I'm looking at you, Hungary, for one) on letting in a country with what'll certainly end up involved in a border dispute needing an Article 5.How about this one -
US has floated Ukraine ceding Donbas for Nato membership, Zelensky says
The Ukrainian president says US envoys touted the exchange as part of efforts to end the war with Russia.
US has floated Ukraine ceding Donbas for Nato membership, Zelensky says
US negotiators have touted the idea of Ukraine withdrawing its remaining forces from the eastern Donbas region in exchange for Nato membership, Volodymyr Zelensky has said ...
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Would there be any piece of our land that would be acceptable if the US or someone else was insisting on it?
Yukon?
Labrador?
X piece?
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I have zero doubt that NATO would make it well past the Urals right here right now against Russia if Nukes were off the table.
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Meanwhile, on that whole satellite teminal unpleasantness ...
www.themoscowtimes.com
Zelensky Escalates Criticism of SpaceX Over Speed Caps - The Moscow Times
Ukraine's President Volodymyr Zelensky escalated his criticism of SpaceX on Saturday, saying speed restrictions on its military-grade Starshield satellite terminals had dangerous political implications and undermined critical air defenses.
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ask me after 12 years of war
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If wishes were fishes we'd all cast nets.
Unfortunately nukes are and will continue to be on the table. As a result there is no real way to "defeat" Russia unless you wish to risk the end of humanity. You can't launch massive missile strikes against them as it might be misconstrued as a nuclear first strike and you can't drive conventional forces deep into the country as they would likely go nuclear to prevent a collapse.
The best you can hope for is to stop a Russian military incursion or push them back off any territory they take, but Russia will still continue to exist as will their opportunity to rebuild and pose a threat again in the future. The same holds true with China.
Probably the best strategy is a true blockade of all their external trade. Break their economy and make them unable to continue the war. That likely means total unrestricted warfare on their merchant and shadow fleets as well as boarding and diversion of 3rd party vessels seeking to break the blockade. It also likely means striking the rail lines, road bridges and pipelines that allow land trade across their borders.
The RCN report that suggested that Canada actually requires a fleet of 22 submarines was probably on the right track.
To my mind Canada's best bet is not to prepare for a big war but rather prepare for a long war. I'd rather see Canada spend its defence dollars on military production capacity, magazine depth and a significant expansion of our Reserve capacity so we're prepared for a long war rather then spending it on a significant expansion of our standing Army.
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