post bmq training infantry

[JoeyTheHoser]

i have been looking to enlist as infanty when i finish school, and when i looked at the forces.ca site i noticed there was a additional coarse after bmq which i hadnt seen earlier

other than this i cant find anymore info on what the coarse is like except for a couple comments on here and reddit, so i has hoping any infantrymen who have done the coarse could answer some questions.
1. i assume its mandatory no?
2. from the little i have been able to find people describe it as hell on earth, is this true?
3. how much free time is there compared to bmq?
4. overall what is it like compared to bmq
5. and lastly what is it like overall

 

[dangerboy]

It is mandatory. The DP1 Infantry course is where you learn to be an infantry soldier, and if you are successful earn your cap badge.

 

[JoeyTheHoser]

It is mandatory. The DP1 Infantry course is where you learn to be an infantry soldier, and if you are successful earn your cap badge.

Are they the same coarse, because from what i have seen dp1 is only 35 days long?

 

[NavyShooter]

Joey,

Basic Training (BMQ) teaches you the basics that every member of the Canadian Forces needs to know. Stuff like how to wear your uniform, military ethics, how to apply first aid, how to operate you service rifle, how to wear a gas mask.

Once you move past that, it's like every other occupation in the world - you need specific training to be able to do the job.

If you're joining to be an electronics tech, then you will be training in the 'Army way' of repairing electronics, and, they'll show you actual Army electronics and have you practice repairing them. Then you'll go somewhere to work as a repair tech.

As you've expressed that you're joining as an infanteer, there are specialized skills that an infanteer needs that an electronics tech doesn't - greater skill level with your personal weapons, operating support weapons (machine guns) operating anti-tank weapons (rockets/etc) throwing grenades. Then there's the process of conducting an attack - how does a soldier attack an enemy? It's not WW1 and you don't just hop out of a trench and run forward shooting - you have to learn how to work as a dynamic pair of shooters with a fire-team partner, then that team will integrate into a section, which will build into a platoon - and there's a process to teach and train you in all of that.

So, after BMQ, you'll go on a DP1 (or, more correctly the RQ INF PTE - Rank Qualification INFantry PrivaTE) course to learn to be an infanteer.

All the best!

 

[JoeyTheHoser]

Joey,

Basic Training (BMQ) teaches you the basics that every member of the Canadian Forces needs to know. Stuff like how to wear your uniform, military ethics, how to apply first aid, how to operate you service rifle, how to wear a gas mask.

Once you move past that, it's like every other occupation in the world - you need specific training to be able to do the job.

If you're joining to be an electronics tech, then you will be training in the 'Army way' of repairing electronics, and, they'll show you actual Army electronics and have you practice repairing them. Then you'll go somewhere to work as a repair tech.

As you've expressed that you're joining as an infanteer, there are specialized skills that an infanteer needs that an electronics tech doesn't - greater skill level with your personal weapons, operating support weapons (machine guns) operating anti-tank weapons (rockets/etc) throwing grenades. Then there's the process of conducting an attack - how does a soldier attack an enemy? It's not WW1 and you don't just hop out of a trench and run forward shooting - you have to learn how to work as a dynamic pair of shooters with a fire-team partner, then that team will integrate into a section, which will build into a platoon - and there's a process to teach and train you in all of that.

So, after BMQ, you'll go on a DP1 (or, more correctly the RQ INF PTE - Rank Qualification INFantry PrivaTE) course to learn to be an infanteer.

All the best!

Thanks for the reply, this makes it more clear, however I more was wondering if it's the worst time of your life like how others have described it.
But none the less thanks again for making it more clear.

 

[NavyShooter]

It can be both the best and worst of times, usually with some of the best friends you'll ever make or have.

 

[JoeyTheHoser]

It can be both the best and worst of times, usually with some of the best friends you'll ever make or have.

Would you say it's doable for somebody who finds school relatively exhausting?

 

[Blackadder1916]

Doable is as doable does.

 

[shiska]

1. i assume its mandatory no? Yes
2. from the little i have been able to find people describe it as hell on earth, is this true? No. It's hard but tens of thousands of people have done it. Prepare, work hard, and you'll be fine.
3. how much free time is there compared to bmq? Little to none. Depends on staff.
4. overall what is it like compared to bmq Way harder in every way.
5. and lastly what is it like overall The best time of your life and also the worst. Sometimes at the same time. You will be cold, tired, sore but you will make great memories and lasting friendships

 

[JoeyTheHoser]

Do you have any tips on how to prepare for it, especially the mental part?

 

[NavyShooter]

Mental resilience is very important. Find ways to tell yourself GOOD things, not bad.

In our society, we spend a lot of time focusing on the negative, not the positive, and that tends to wear you down. Find a 'better way' to shape your own internal monologue. Instead of saying "gee, this sucks" try "wow, that was tougher than last time but I finished it" or something like that.

Also, find a way to reset yourself when things invariably go wrong. Have a simple 3 step process that you can follow that will help you. The process I used in marksmanship to deal with 'setbacks' was 3 'easy' steps.

1. Breathe and relax
2. Focus
3. Shoot my own target

This has both a physical and mental aspect to it.

Breathe - When things go wrong, there's an aspect of anxiety that will happen - this will drive the heart-rate up, which is directly related to your heart/lung/cardiovascular machine. You cannot tell your heart to slow down - but you can control your breathing which will help do that for you. So. Take a couple of deep breaths - in through the nose, and out through the mouth - exhale fully and get fresh air into your lungs. This will help slow your heart rate and reduce the result of the anxiety. It puts you back in control and relaxes you.

Focus - What is the actual problem that you need to solve? In my case in marksmanship, it may be a jammed rifle that needs to be cleared, so I'll take the action to remedy that - it can be any problem though - and if you're not focused on solving the right problem...you're still going to be behind the game.

Shoot my own target - See above about solving the right problem. Clearing the jam, then putting rounds on target is important, but hitting your own target is most important.

This can be applied to many circumstances - not just marksmanship.

Locked keys in locker - OH NO - PANIC - Take deep breath - slow heart rate, stop jiggling lock, look for your buddy that's got your spare key, go find him, get key, open locker - DOESN'T WORK - OH NO - PANIC - Realize you're trying to open the wrong locker - go back to your locker with spare key, open lock, problem solved.

Find ways to use positive self talk as well.

Good luck.

NS

 

[JoeyTheHoser]

Mental resilience is very important. Find ways to tell yourself GOOD things, not bad.

In our society, we spend a lot of time focusing on the negative, not the positive, and that tends to wear you down. Find a 'better way' to shape your own internal monologue. Instead of saying "gee, this sucks" try "wow, that was tougher than last time but I finished it" or something like that.

Also, find a way to reset yourself when things invariably go wrong. Have a simple 3 step process that you can follow that will help you. The process I used in marksmanship to deal with 'setbacks' was 3 'easy' steps.

1. Breathe and relax
2. Focus
3. Shoot my own target

This has both a physical and mental aspect to it.

Breathe - When things go wrong, there's an aspect of anxiety that will happen - this will drive the heart-rate up, which is directly related to your heart/lung/cardiovascular machine. You cannot tell your heart to slow down - but you can control your breathing which will help do that for you. So. Take a couple of deep breaths - in through the nose, and out through the mouth - exhale fully and get fresh air into your lungs. This will help slow your heart rate and reduce the result of the anxiety. It puts you back in control and relaxes you.

Focus - What is the actual problem that you need to solve? In my case in marksmanship, it may be a jammed rifle that needs to be cleared, so I'll take the action to remedy that - it can be any problem though - and if you're not focused on solving the right problem...you're still going to be behind the game.

Shoot my own target - See above about solving the right problem. Clearing the jam, then putting rounds on target is important, but hitting your own target is most important.

This can be applied to many circumstances - not just marksmanship.

Locked keys in locker - OH NO - PANIC - Take deep breath - slow heart rate, stop jiggling lock, look for your buddy that's got your spare key, go find him, get key, open locker - DOESN'T WORK - OH NO - PANIC - Realize you're trying to open the wrong locker - go back to your locker with spare key, open lock, problem solved.

Find ways to use positive self talk as well.

Good luck.

NS

thanks man