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Prince Harry Deploys to Afghanistan

CDN Aviator said:
You know, its pretty funny......

For a guy who said :
klee519 said:
i was in 96 and out 04, now decide to get back in and start basic all over again.


You managed to ask some really funny questions on this site and now you made an equaly stupid statement. Now, since your profiles says you are 22, say you have been in for 8 years ( ending 4 years ago) why dont you tell us which one of your stories is BS.


He must of joined up when he was 10.  Now 12 years later he is a Recruit...........again.  Seems awful full of himself in other topics.  Now everyone knows and will definitely check him out and realize he is a poser.  They always get caught up in their lies.  ::)
 
helpup said:
I just looked at his profile and whole lot of nothing there for a man to make comments such as he is making.  .

More like a boy, and named Walter Mitty.

Poser, BS, or fantasiser, either way its lies. ya and its his reputation, not that he cares anyway.

He is a child in our kitchen, running between our legs, he'll trip and cry soon enough.

We should attempt to keep things on topic here  ;D.

He won't last long on here, just another fart in a hurricane.


Cheers,

wes
 
klee519 said:
oh so big deal, spent 10 weeks vacation in Afghanistan and came back as a hero. I wonder what did he do overthere.

And I guess these soldiers are just chilling, after their holiday in the sun eh?

http://www.dnd.ca/site/focus/fallen/index_e.asp

dileas

tess
 
Wesley  Down Under said:
More like a boy, and named Walter Mitty.

Poser, BS, or fantasiser, either way its lies. ya and its his reputation, not that he cares anyway.

He is a child in our kitchen, running between our legs, he'll trip and cry soon enough.

We should attempt to keep things on topic here  ;D.

He won't last long on here, just another fart in a hurricane.


Cheers,

wes

I sit corrected boy it is, although that is not from his age just his maturity showing through
 
He claims to be 22, yet served back in 1996? So the steam is whafting of the BS pile in our dierection.

He has given himself enough rope to do the jig.

Cheers,

Wes
 
klee519 said:
oh so big deal, spent 10 weeks vacation in Afghanistan and came back as a hero. I wonder what did he do overthere.


A HELL OF A LOT MORE THAN YOU'VE DONE OR PROBALY EVER WILL, for a start you could fill in your profile.
 
FastEddy said:
A HELL OF A LOT MORE THAN YOU'VE DONE OR PROBALY EVER WILL, for a start you could fill in your profile.

He won't, we've got a hit and run troll on our hands people.
 
klee519 said:
oh so big deal, spent 10 weeks vacation in Afghanistan and came back as a hero. I wonder what did he do overthere.

Ummm... what's your problem ?  ???
Harry was a 2Lt doing a very important job as a Forward air controller.  He hadn't done a thing to blow his importance out of proportion to his job.... and that's all he's asking to do... to be the soldier he's trained to be... Nothing more, nothing less.

»You should wish to have the oportunity to do the same.....
 
We know klee519 is a troll and bs artist. Don't clutter the thread.

Milnet.ca Staff
 
In hopes of distracting just a touch from the troll-fest, here's a little something <sarcasm> that'll make morning show presenters all over look even better than they already do - but I'm sure he was quoted out of context, right?</sarcasm> - shared with the usual disclaimer...

Prince Harry 'expendable', claims US news host
Sophie Borland, The Telegraph (UK), 4 Mar 08
Article link - YouTube clip of presenter

A US news presenter has found himself at the centre of a row for joking live on-air that Prince Harry was only sent to Afghanistan because he is expendable.

Chris Cuomo, who co-hosts ABC's current affairs program Good Morning America, stunned his colleagues with his remarks on Monday's show which came shortly before a special feature on the Royal Family.

He said the Prince "has been over in Afghanistan fighting because he's expendable," prompting his fellow host Robin Roberts to respond "What did you say?"

Cuomo stuck by his assertion and reiterated; "It's true. The reason that Harry is allowed to be in Afghanistan is because he's not the heir to the throne. William's not allowed to be there."

Prince Harry returned to Britain from Afghanistan last week after leaked reports that he was fighting on the front line compromised his security.

Army officials have suggested that Prince William is very unlikely to be serve in another warzone.
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Earlier this week General Sir Richard Dannatt, Chief of the General Staff, said: "I think what Prince William does or does not do is a completely separate issue and must be looked at again on a case-by-case basis."

Next month Prince Harry will be promoted to a full lieutenant after completing two years in the army and his salary will rise from £23,475 to £28,216.

His brother Prince William is already a full lieutenant in the Army because he went to the Royal Academy Sandhurst as a graduate.

On Sunday a senior Taliban commander claimed that he knew Prince Harry was in Afghanistan within weeks of his arrival but fighters could not get close to their target.

Mullah Abdul Karim, a veteran fighter, said he had received an urgent message from Taliban intelligence in late December or early January that "an important chicken" had joined British troops in his area of operations.


 
I love the out look of some.  They take a line of thought that is generally correct, such as Prince Harry being 3rd in line to the Throne, was allowed to perform his duties as a member of the Armed Forces of Britain in a War Zone.  And turn it into " he was there as Prince Harry is expendable."  " No it is true". 
Lets wash over the fact that regardless of why he joined the military Prince Harry has made it clear by all reports that he wanted to serve in one of the conflicts that his country is performing in.  How does it or should it matter if he is allowed and how callow do you have to be to feel anyone is expendable.

I was going to say Unbelievable but then again it is all too believable. 

Regardless I respect Prince Harry for his actions and desires.  May he continue to serve especially since he does not have to. 
 
Prince Harry's War

By CATHERINE MAYER  Wednesday, Mar. 05, 2008 By

Alas poor Harry. whatever you think about the wisdom of mounting a complex operation to deploy one inexperienced 23-year-old
soldier to the frontline of a controversial war; whether your instincts are royalist or republican; if you are disturbed by the spectacle of
Britain's usually tenacious media bowing to the wishes of palace, military and government, and suppressing a story — no matter what
your response to the Afghanistan adventuring of Britain's warrior prince, it's hard not to feel sorry for him.

This is a boy born to redundancy, a second son in a tradition that regards the eldest child as heir and his younger sibling as "the spare",
and in an age that abrasively questions the point of the monarchy while devouring reports of its activities. Frequently derided as a
nightclubbing wastrel before his 10-week stint in Helmand province, the prince now finds himself lionized by many of the same voices
that used to criticize him. "I don't want to sit around Windsor, because I generally don't like England that much and it's nice to be away
from all the press and the papers," he said, sadly contemplating his homeward journey.

Forget the banner headlines about Harry's secret deployment or the news blackout that made it possible until a U.S. website revealed his
whereabouts. The really big news is that the third in line to Britain's throne says he doesn't like his own country that much. Yet look at the
pictures of the prince on active service, and it's easy to see why Harry might prefer his hard army billet to the comforts of a palace bed.
Dressed in camouflage, his pale skin burned as ruddy as his hair, the prince for the first time in his life was almost invisible, blending into
the bleak desert landscape with its rich palette of colors — any shade, as long as it's dusty red. To the watching enemy — he calls them
"Terry Taliban" — he was indistinguishable from the rest of the troops.

Like Audrey Hepburn on the back of Gregory Peck's Vespa in Roman Holiday, Harry has enjoyed a whistle-stop tour of how commoners live
— and die. He shared his flight back to England with two critically wounded soldiers. He admits he may be "a bullet magnet," a prize scalp
for enemy forces and terrorists. Yet Harry has tasted something akin to ordinary life and he's eager for more. "It's bizarre," he mused in an
interview recorded during his tour of duty. "I'm out here now, haven't really had a shower for four days, haven't washed my clothes for a
week and everything feels completely normal." He spoke of how fun it was to spend time with a "bunch of normal guys," and, revealingly,
commented wistfully, "I think this is about as normal as I'm ever going to get."

Given the unprecedented military and media operation needed to create this simulacrum of normality, the prince's assessment was just
about right. The Windsors don't do normal. Their function is symbolic; the most popular and effective member of the family, the Queen,
is remote, dare one say regal, despite her relentless diary of public engagements. It was Harry's mother Diana, a royal-by-marriage, who
engaged with ordinary people in emotionally intelligent ways and encouraged her sons to strive for a kind of über-normality. Yet as she
discovered, it's hard to keep it real in the parallel universe that her former in-laws inhabit. Their palaces are packed with treasures, and
swarm with valets and equerries, butlers and footmen; yet it's anything but a luxurious existence. Royal quarters are surprisingly spartan;
there's no privacy, but little meaningful human contact. "People say to me, 'Would you like to swap your life with me for 24 hours? Your life
must be very strange.' But of course I have not experienced any other life. It's not strange to me." That's Harry's uncle Prince Andrew, in a
2006 interview for TIME.

Like Harry, Andrew is a second son, born to duty but without a purpose. Like Harry, he saw active service, back in 1982 in the Falklands. Like
many family members, he's wont to express opinions at odds with wider public opinion (I once heard Andrew say that American culture has
made no impact on Britain). Despite a long naval career and his more recent efforts as Britain's special representative for trade and investment,
he has never quite shaken off his reputation as a playboy prince. The same fate threatened Harry until his star turn in the theater of war recast
him as a hero and champion recruiter for Britain's armed forces. Just a few nights on the tiles could dent his new-minted image. It would be
normal behavior for any young soldier on R&R, but normality isn't and can never be the province of princes.


Article on link
 
Yrys said:
Prince Harry's War

By CATHERINE MAYER   Wednesday, Mar. 05, 2008 By


Article on link



First of all, who the hell is CATHERINE MAYER, Seconly, why the hell should we care and Thirdly, just sounds like someone taking cheap shots at the Royals where they can.

Lets never forget Prince Harry's a Soldier,  who's been there and done that and volunteered just like the rest of us.
 
It's in the media today that the Aussie paper that broke the news has issued an appology for having broken the secrecy compact.....

Are they really sorry..... as sorry as their subscribers make them is my guess.
 
I thought about posting this story as a standalone but decided to toss it in here.

http://www.acc.af.mil/news/story.asp?id=123090126

Prince Harry learns why 4th FW is first
by Kenneth Fine
Wright Times deputy editor

3/13/2008 - SEYMOUR JOHNSON AIR FORCE BASE, N.C. (ACCNS) -- A call comes in from somewhere in the desert.

A Joint Tactical Air Controller on the ground in Afghanistan's Helmand province needs air support.

He and his comrades are taking fire from a trench line.

Hundreds of miles away, Capt. Ben Donberg can hear the gunshots.

He is the command pilot on the other end of that call.

His F-15E Strike Eagle and another, both assets of Seymour Johnson Air Force Base's 4th Fighter Wing, are on their way -- "very, very fast."

Back on the ground, "WIDOW 67" waits.

He is talking to the Air Force captain.

His voice is muffled only by the sound of insurgent fire.

Just another JTAC in need of some assistance, Captain Donberg assumes.

"It was just a standard troops-in-contact call, and we checked in with him," he said. "He's got a British accent, but that wasn't at all unusual because we were working with the British a lot over there."

Donberg had no idea that the man behind that call sign was third in line to the British throne.

But the truth is, had he, it would not have altered his response.

His role as an American pilot is to protect and support Allied forces on the ground.

All of them.

This time, it just happened to be Prince Harry.

"He was taking fire from a trench line and was using surveillance to try to find (the insurgents)," Donberg said. "In that terrain, it can be pretty tough to dig them out."

But failure on the part of the JTAC is not an option.

In fact, without the location of the insurgents and other information, the pilots in the sky are powerless to act.

"When we check in with that JTAC, first he gives you an overview of what's happening on the ground ... where the friendlies are, who they are taking fire from and other variables that might be included in the fight," Captain Donberg said. "We then check in and say, 'This is what we can offer you. These are the weapons we have, that kind of thing.'"

Luckily for the prince and his men, Harry is good at what he does, Captain Donberg said.

"His proficiency level and his skill level were just extraordinarily high," Captain Donberg said. "In fact, everybody in that sortie, all four of us, once we got down, we all commented on the proficiency and the skill he was providing us."

Donberg and his wingman, Capt. Jonathan Bess, returned the favor with some precision of their own.

"It was a weapons employment," Captain Donberg said. "We had three strikes going in to basically take out all the enemy within that trench line."

Looking back on that mission, knowing now that "WIDOW 67" was, in fact, royalty, strikes Donberg as "interesting."

After all, the Helmand province is no "cake walk."

In fact, the south of the country is one of the more dangerous areas to be a ground troop, he said.

So what exactly was Prince Harry doing in that firefight?

The same thing Captain Donberg was doing in the air, he says -- fighting to protect a newly liberated country's freedom.

"The fact that he was down in this location, this forward operating base, where it's not the safest spot in Afghanistan by a long shot, it tells you something about him," Captain Donberg said. "I mean, he was actually down there in the fight."

The prince and his unit survived that encounter with the help of an F-15E fleet that is always just a call away -- just as many other "boots on the ground" have been protected and "enabled" by those constantly patrolling the skies over a country on the mend.

4th Fighter Wing Vice Commander Col. Dan Debree held the same position with the 455th Air Expeditionary Wing at Afghanistan's Bagram Air Base when that call came in from "WIDOW 67."

"Eliminating that threat for those troops on the ground, air power allows us to do that," he said. "The bottom line over there in Afghanistan is that air power is available 24 hours a day, 7 days a week, 365 days a year. Those aircraft enable the ground forces out there to fight this fight."

They might be performing convoy clearing, an escort service or simply a show of force.

But whatever the mission, they answer that call.

"What we provide is a lot of ordnance and we get there fast," Colonel DeBree said. "And when we get there, we can make a lot of noise to hopefully scare them off, or might even drop a weapon if we have to."

And if there are more JTACs out there like Prince Harry, he feels confident that each bomb dropped will serve its purpose alone and avoid inflicting collateral damage.

"This campaign we are doing right now in Afghanistan is the most disciplined and precise air campaign I have ever seen," the colonel said. "We are, to the letter, making sure that civilians are out of harm's way and that friendlies are out of harm's way before a weapon comes off that jet."

And more importantly, they are making sure that employment of weapons is a last resort -- as it was in the case of "WIDOW 67" and his unit.

Only then, Colonel DeBree said, can they succeed in the real mission.

"Basically, it comes down to three pillars, three missions we are trying to accomplish in Afghanistan. First, we are trying to establish security because it's a prerequisite for the other two. That's the shooting part," he said. "But in my opinion, and I'm quoting dead British generals right now, 'The shooting part of a counter-insurgency is only about 25 percent of it. The other 75 percent is (governance of 34 provinces and development of sound infrastructure)."

"It's a tough game for sure, but it's all about security first, governance and development," Colonel Debree added. "And then, hopefully, the governance and development are strong enough and the Afghan Army is strong enough that they can take care of themselves."
 
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