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WHAT
does anyone have more on this?
does anyone have more on this?
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I, to be honest don‘t have any more information on it.
It‘s just a piece of trivia I remember from a while back that I memorised simply because it was strange, but I am almost 100% sure it is correct.
I suppose it could be some kind of Urban Legend, but it is my answer regardless.
It doesn‘t sound too, too far fetched.
The Japanese conscripted many Koreans into service, the Japanese fought the Russians, the Russians fought the Germans and from there it‘s not too hard to see how it could‘ve happened.
It‘s just a piece of trivia I remember from a while back that I memorised simply because it was strange, but I am almost 100% sure it is correct.
I suppose it could be some kind of Urban Legend, but it is my answer regardless.
It doesn‘t sound too, too far fetched.
The Japanese conscripted many Koreans into service, the Japanese fought the Russians, the Russians fought the Germans and from there it‘s not too hard to see how it could‘ve happened.
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Didnt the Germans do some kind of call to arms before the war started encouraging those of German origin to enlist? Does it have something to do with that? Maybe a little hint please...
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There are reports of Mongolian soldiers being captured during the Normandy invasion, but I have seen no referencers to Koreans.
These pages refer:
http://bbll.com/army/photos.html
http://www.508pir.org/pdf_files/Sackenheim-part2.pdf
http://www.6juin1944.com/veterans/mckee.php
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These pages refer:
http://bbll.com/army/photos.html
http://www.508pir.org/pdf_files/Sackenheim-part2.pdf
http://www.6juin1944.com/veterans/mckee.php
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I think when they say "Mongolian" on that page that are using it in more of a general sense to describe a certain ethnic group of Asians that could include Koreans, Japanese etc. ,
I remember them being described as Koreans before, but perhaps I could be wrong about their nationality altogether!
I remember them being described as Koreans before, but perhaps I could be wrong about their nationality altogether!
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the guy who works at the Pizza Pizza by my house
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*the internet is a beautiful thing*...would that be the HMS Habbakuk? The hypothetical British Aircraft carrier deemed ‘unsinkable‘ by U-boats because it would be made of ice? They apparently were going to build it in Canada...
Sounds like our kind of ship eh?
They must have been quite desparate for ideas back then...
Sounds like our kind of ship eh?
They must have been quite desparate for ideas back then...
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Well that one lasted less than an hour. Correct it is the pizza guy. 
Yeah during WWII some bright eyed navy staff type came up with the idea of building an aircraft carrier out of an iceberg for ASW use in the Battle of the Atlantic. Remember there was a gap in the middle of the ocean that couldn‘t be covered by land based aircraft from either England or North America.
Actually it wouldn‘t have been just ice but some sort of composite ice and sawdust with walls and bulkheads 40 feet thick! The thing would have been enourmous and capable of handling twin engined aircraft.
It was to have been propelled by 26 seperate electric engine nacelles attached to the "hull."
Fortunately by 1943, there were sufficient escort carriers to cover the gap and the project was abandoned.
Hey weren‘t the Canadian Alliance suggesting we get a carrier in their last white paper? Hope none of them come across this. Mind at least the beer would be cold in the mess.
Yeah during WWII some bright eyed navy staff type came up with the idea of building an aircraft carrier out of an iceberg for ASW use in the Battle of the Atlantic. Remember there was a gap in the middle of the ocean that couldn‘t be covered by land based aircraft from either England or North America.
Actually it wouldn‘t have been just ice but some sort of composite ice and sawdust with walls and bulkheads 40 feet thick! The thing would have been enourmous and capable of handling twin engined aircraft.
It was to have been propelled by 26 seperate electric engine nacelles attached to the "hull."
Fortunately by 1943, there were sufficient escort carriers to cover the gap and the project was abandoned.
Hey weren‘t the Canadian Alliance suggesting we get a carrier in their last white paper? Hope none of them come across this. Mind at least the beer would be cold in the mess.
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Ok now that I‘m home and safely among my reference books (what you thought I had all this stuff memorised?), here‘s some other fascinating facts on the Iceberg carrier from Warships 1860-1970 by J.M. Thorton.
Habbakuk was to have been 2,000 feet long and weighed 2,000,000 tons. The mixture of ice and wood pulp that it was to be made of was called "pykrette." Special refrigeration machinery was to be used to keep the "ship" permenantly frozen.
For comparison on the size there an average WWII fleet carrier would have wieghed in at about 30,000-45,000 tons and the largest constructed the IJN Shinano (built on the hull of a Yamamato class Battleship) weighed in at 71,890 tons.
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Habbakuk was to have been 2,000 feet long and weighed 2,000,000 tons. The mixture of ice and wood pulp that it was to be made of was called "pykrette." Special refrigeration machinery was to be used to keep the "ship" permenantly frozen.
For comparison on the size there an average WWII fleet carrier would have wieghed in at about 30,000-45,000 tons and the largest constructed the IJN Shinano (built on the hull of a Yamamato class Battleship) weighed in at 71,890 tons.
Anyone got another question to add?
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During the South African War Private A.W. Belyea of D Company of the Second (Special Service) Battalion, The Royal Canadian Regiment was court martialed. What was his crime, and what was his sentence? What was the maximum penalty that could have been awarded by the Court?
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Among the first "Germans" captured at Normandy were several Koreans. They had been forced to fight for the Japanese Army until they were captured by the Russians and then forced to fight for the Russian Army until they were captured by the Germans and further forced to fight for the German Army until they were captured by the U.S. Army.
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RCR? Did it involve a chicken? If it‘s the one I‘m thinking of, the sentence would have been halved had the chicken at least been of the opposite sex.
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Well done Mike, and yes, it did happen to involve a chicken:
"There had been an incident on the march that could have had tragic results. Two British officers had seen Private A.W. Belyea of D Company [of the Second (Special Service) Battalion, The Royal Canadian Regiment] grab a stray chicken that crossed his path. Looting was anathema to the army, and Belyea was court-martialled. To set an example for the troops the brigade was formed up in a hollow square to hear the verdict. For poor Belyea the ordeal was terrifying as he stood alone, head bowed, awaiting the decision of the court. The verdict was hardly in doubt, and the offence could draw the death penalty. The officers who made up the court realized the maximum punishment did not fit the crime. Belyea was confined to barracks for 56 days, a meaningless punishment on the veldt. (From a related footnote - ...Capt S.M. Rogers, who commanded D Company, told his men, "Now listen, boys, it wasn‘t for stealing the chicken that [Belyea] was going to be hung, it was for getting caught at it, so watch yourself.")" - Brian A. Reid, Our Little Army in the Field; The Canadians in South Africa 1899-1902, 1996
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"There had been an incident on the march that could have had tragic results. Two British officers had seen Private A.W. Belyea of D Company [of the Second (Special Service) Battalion, The Royal Canadian Regiment] grab a stray chicken that crossed his path. Looting was anathema to the army, and Belyea was court-martialled. To set an example for the troops the brigade was formed up in a hollow square to hear the verdict. For poor Belyea the ordeal was terrifying as he stood alone, head bowed, awaiting the decision of the court. The verdict was hardly in doubt, and the offence could draw the death penalty. The officers who made up the court realized the maximum punishment did not fit the crime. Belyea was confined to barracks for 56 days, a meaningless punishment on the veldt. (From a related footnote - ...Capt S.M. Rogers, who commanded D Company, told his men, "Now listen, boys, it wasn‘t for stealing the chicken that [Belyea] was going to be hung, it was for getting caught at it, so watch yourself.")" - Brian A. Reid, Our Little Army in the Field; The Canadians in South Africa 1899-1902, 1996
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Perhaps something a little easier:
What cast member of a popular 1960s science fiction television series was a Forward Obervation Officer with 13th Field Regiment in Normandy?
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What cast member of a popular 1960s science fiction television series was a Forward Obervation Officer with 13th Field Regiment in Normandy?
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Ok, how about this - Don Cherry is a son of a gunner. What did his dad do, and when?
Bonus question - Cherry played in a civilian pipe band for several years - what instrument did he play?
Bonus question - Cherry played in a civilian pipe band for several years - what instrument did he play?
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