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QUESTION OF THE WEEK

Let‘s bring back a Canadian context; where can the following inscription be found:

"TO THE VALOUR OF THEIR CONTRYMEN IN THE GREAT WAR AND IN MEMORY OF THEIR SIXTY THOUSAND DEAD THIS MONUMENT IS RAISED BY THE PEOPLE OF CANADA."
 
The Vimy Memorial, in France. :cdn:

edit - I almost said Ottawa War Memorial, until I realized that the inscription sounded too much like it was written in a place other than canada.
 
Perhaps that was too easy. So, another in the same vein.

On the Tomb of the Unknown Soldier there are four symbols: laurel leaves, maple leaves, a poppy and a medieval sword. What is the meaning of each of these symbols?

Also: What other symbol, in three versions, is also on the tomb?
 
I have an answer to the second question, still working on the first.

The symbol is the Silver cross, The three crosses differ in that each one has a different Royal Cipher; One belonging to King George V, The other belonging to King George VI, and the final belonging to Queen Elizabeth II.
The significance of these royals is that they were the three monarchs since the cross‘s inception.

Edit-The Silver Cross is also known as the memorial cross, it is awarded to the families of soldiers who fall in battle.
 
Originally posted by Michael OLeary:
[qb] On the Tomb of the Unknown Soldier there are four symbols: laurel leaves, maple leaves, a poppy and a medieval sword. What is the meaning of each of these symbols?
[/qb]
Here is my WAG

Laurel leaves - symbol of nobility
Maple leaves - symbol of Canada
Poppy - symbol of sacrifice in War
Medieval sword - symbol of a crusade
 
I was under the impression that the Laurel leaves were a more solemn symbol, of victory or death..something along those lines.
 
Not bad, the four symbols are as follows:

Laurel leaves, symbolizing both victory and death.
Maple leaves, symbolizing Canada.
Medieval sword, symbolizing courage.
Poppy, symbol of sacrifice and remembrance.

And Che is correct regarding the three versions of the Memorial Cross.

Mike
 
On 24 July 1908, what major event was staged by the Canadian Army, and of what celebrations was it part?
 
Just a wild guess off the top of my head, but was it benedict arnold?

I caught that A&E movie, and he apparently tried to take Montreal.
 
Originally posted by Kirkpatrick:
[qb] Just a wild guess off the top of my head, but was it benedict arnold?

I caught that A&E movie, and he apparently tried to take Montreal. [/qb]
No.
 
In 1778 who was to lead an Invasion of Canada?
"By October 1778 the young Marquis de Lafayette, a French noblemen who had taken service in the Continental army [of the United States], had concocted a vast scheme whereby he would lead five thousand American troops north in the spring of 1779 and seize Montreal."

This was to be followed by the seizure of Quebec, then Halifax, and then Newfoundland.

"Washington was afraid that once France regained Canada, the French government might find it ‘impracticable to withdraw.‘ So Congress agreed to cancel the whole plan in January 1779, and it was never discussed again."

(The Defence of Canada; Gwynne Dyer and Tina Viljoen; 1990)
 
That‘s it you can‘t play anymore ;)

Marquis de Lafayette and the Invasion that wasn‘t

Bruce Ricketts

The Marquis de Lafayette was an interesting guy. He created the tricolour flag for France in 1789. He joined the Americans during the War of independence. He became a close friend of George Washington. And he led a planned invasion of Canada... an invasion that never took place.
Marie Joseph Paul Yves Roche Gilbert du Motier, the Marquis de Lafayette, was born in in France in 1757. He grew up as an adventurer and a romantic and longed for a "just cause".

When Lafayette learned of the struggle of the Americans in their endeavor to secure their independence, he resolved to come to the colonies to aid them as a volunteer. He had the backing of Silas Deane, the US representative to France, who was charged to recruit young French officers for the US. (Deane was later recalled by the US under a cloud of suspicion that he accepted kick-backs from the French thrill-seekers.)

Lafayette landed near Charleston, South Carolina on June 13, 1777, presented his Deane-introduction letter stating that he was to be a General in the US Army and was welcomed with great hospitably. He proceeded to Philadelphia and was welcomed by Congress. Who wouldn‘t welcome someone who was willing to serve in the army without pay?

Since Lafayette represented the highest rank of French nobility and his motives were so patriotic in the American cause, the Congress commissioned him a Major General on the 31st of July, 1777. Later that summer Lafayette met General George Washington and a friendship developed between the two men which lasted as long as Washington lived. All this, and Lafayette was not even 20 years old!

(Lafayette hated the slave trade in America; it was one of the few things about the Revolution that he couldn‘t abide, and was tireless in his criticism of slavery and its proponents. Lafayette‘s unyielding views on slavery had a tremendous effect on Washington, who ultimately freed the slaves at Mount Vernon upon his death, due in part to Lafayette‘s influence.)

Lafayette was a member of Washington‘s staff and during the Battle of the Brandywine. He participated in the closing part of the battle when he was wounded in the leg. He rejoined the American forces after recovering from his wound.

As Lafayette was making his meteoric rise in Washington‘s Army another US General, Horatio Gates, was taking notice. Gates was not a fan of Washington nor of Lafayette. In October of 1777, Gates was appointed the President of the War Board. In this position he created an assignment for Lafayette to head up an small army that was supposed to invade Canada. Gates planned the whole affair without the knowledge of Washington. Washington got wind of the plan only when Lafayette approached him carrying his "commission" from Gates.

On February 17, 1778, Lafayette rode to Albany New York, where the invasion was being staged. He was appalled at what he saw. There were too few troops. Those who were there were poorly equipped. Most importantly, there was wide spread derision over the plan to prosecute the invasion during the winter months. And what‘s more, the British and Canadians were expecting the invasion.

Lafayette wrote to Washington stating; "I am sent, with a great noise, at the head of the army to do great things. The whole continent, France, and what is the worst, the British army will be in expectation."

In March of 1778, the invasion plan was postponed and eventually discarded.

In 1781, following a glorious career in the US Army, Lafayette returned to France. His only visit back to the US was in 1825 at the invitation of the US government. The Marquis de Lafayette died in 1834 in France.
 
Originally posted by Michael OLeary:
[qb] On 24 July 1908, what major event was staged by the Canadian Army, and of what celebrations was it part? [/qb]
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Originally posted by Michael Dorosh:
[qb]
Originally posted by Michael OLeary:
[qb] On 24 July 1908, what major event was staged by the Canadian Army, and of what celebrations was it part? [/qb]
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Bump to the new page for those that missed it. [/qb]
Victoria‘s Jubilee?
 
Queen Victoria died in 1901 and King Edward was well on the throne by 1908.
 
Well done Art.

"July 24th [1908] was the climax of the military participation in the Tercentenary celebrations [of the founding of Quebec], a grand review on the plains of Abraham. A rehearsal on the day before was followed by a parade through the streets of Quebec so that poorer people, unable to take their place in the grandstands, would have a small share of the military excitement. The practice showed the limitations of the ground -it was rough and too small for the assembled host -and staff officers worked through he night to make new dispositions for the review. Long before dawn on the 24th, ferries were busy carrying men from Levis. Columns of infantry, cavalry and artillery clattered through the streets of the city and tramped along dusty roads while staff officers fussed with self-importance. Fortunately Otter could relax: the crucial arrangements were in the hands of Colonel Willoughby Gwatkin, a cool, intelligent British staff officer well launched on his long Canadian career.

By the time Otter reached the plains the early morning mists were being burned off by the sun, the last troops were in place and the stands were packed. Colonel Lessard trotted up to hand over the parade state: 12,422 men, 2,134 horses, 26 guns, with an additional 2,400 sailors and marines from the visiting warships. At 10.00 a.m., the royal party arrived; the bearded Prince in a general ‘s uniform, Lord Roberts in the full dress of a field marshal. Next .came the inspection, with Otter leading the party down the long ranks of troops. To his delight he picked out the medical orderlies, standing idly behind the ranks: despite the heat, that meant that few, if any, of his men had collapsed. At the reviewing stand the Prince of wales dismounted to present Laurier with a cheque for $450,000, the amount so far collected for the battlefield memorial. Now the march-past could begin.

It took an hour and a half for the long line of sailors, marines, gunners, cavalrymen and infantry to pass the reviewing stand. The crowd burst into special applause for the sailors, the little unit of Royal Military College cadets, the Mounted Police and the newest permanent force unit, Lord Strathcona‘s Horse. Twice Lord Roberts trotted out to lead troops past the Prince of wales -first the artillery, then Otter‘s old regiment, the Queen‘s Own. He was colonel- in-chief of both. Gradually, as the lines passed before him, Otter could relax. There would be no mishap, no humiliating confusion. He could spare a thought for the rural battalions, marvelling at their transformation during his militia years. At the end of the column came the Royal Canadian Regiment. To the Prince, puzzled that regular troops should march in the junior position, Otter explained: "I wanted the tail to be equal to the head."

When the parade had passed, two batteries of permanent force artillery, the newly redesignated Royal Canadian Horse Artillery, formed up at one end of the field. At a command, whips cracked and the two batteries suddenly raced across the field, harness jingling, limbers and guns leaping over the uneven ground. At the far end, the teams twisted and, in a cloud of dust, came hurtling back. The crowd leaped to its feet, shouting itself hoarse with excitement. The review was over. Otter urged his horse forward, riding out to meet his troops. As he moved toward the huge mass of scarlet, rifle green and navy blue, the significance of the parade state figures struck him: he commanded more men than the armies of Wolfe and Montcalm combined."

(Desmond Morton, The Canadian General Sir William Otter, 1974)
 
What colour was the the White House before the War of 1812.
Before we set fire to it. :cdn:

Us old fart‘s and Cornucopia of Knowledge not answer!! :threat:

Let‘s let the young‘n‘s get a chance to answer.

;) :D
 
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