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I don't think you find many, if any, of us that served over there, that would call it anything else but a war.
Remembrance or Veterans?
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Acknowledging all of MSM's other sins, to be fair, I wonder where else they could have picked up that term, or variations on that theme?
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Agree with the idea - this whole mixing a week to remember vets around 11 November just muddies the waters - as well as they why it won't likely happen.
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I seem to recall reading somewhere that at one point Canada actually had a Veteran's Day.Acknowledging all of MSM's other sins, to be fair, I wonder where else they could have picked up that term, or variations on that theme?
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Agree with the idea - this whole mixing a week to remember vets around 11 November just muddies the waters - as well as they why it won't likely happen.
Sometime in late spring or early summer if memory serves.
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The big reason WWI and WWII captured the national interest is because there were few Canadians that didn't personally know someone that had served or been killed.
Around 40000 Canadians served in Afghanistan. That's about on for every million Canadians, meaning most Canadians have zero connection to the war. Particularly now that the war ended, for us, a decade ago. I'm not sure there is much the Legion can do make people care.
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These might be the closest.
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I think you meant one in every thousand?
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I believe it was actually prior to WW IIThese might be the closest.
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Although a US article, their Memorial Day is like our Remembrance Day, I agree:
Monday is Memorial Day, a holiday celebrated throughout the United States with barbecues, music festivals, and children running through sprinklers. All those traditions are wonderful. But my husband, a veteran, has one request: Don't treat Memorial Day as a day to honor our troops currently serving in the military. It's not a day for them. As the word "Memorial" tells us, it's a day for remembering and honoring those who sacrificed their lives in battle and are no longer among us.
All those men, and some women too, who died in Vietnam and every war before and since, didn't get the chance to bring up their children, or grow old with their spouses, or have careers. All they have is their names on the Wall, or another memorial like it, and a triangular folded flag for their families.
So go ahead and thank our veterans and support our troops on every other day. Save Memorial Day for remembering and honoring those who never had the chance to become veterans. This one day a year is all they and their loved ones have left.
Memorial Day is much more than the official beginning of summer.
Monday is Memorial Day, a holiday celebrated throughout the United States with barbecues, music festivals, and children running through sprinklers. All those traditions are wonderful. But my husband, a veteran, has one request: Don't treat Memorial Day as a day to honor our troops currently serving in the military. It's not a day for them. As the word "Memorial" tells us, it's a day for remembering and honoring those who sacrificed their lives in battle and are no longer among us.
All those men, and some women too, who died in Vietnam and every war before and since, didn't get the chance to bring up their children, or grow old with their spouses, or have careers. All they have is their names on the Wall, or another memorial like it, and a triangular folded flag for their families.
So go ahead and thank our veterans and support our troops on every other day. Save Memorial Day for remembering and honoring those who never had the chance to become veterans. This one day a year is all they and their loved ones have left.
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I haven't heard about that, but, until 1919, Canadians celebrated Paardeberg Day (27 February) "to commemorate the country’s war dead."
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At Mcgregor Armories in Winnipeg. Unveiled yesterday
Winnipeg army reserve unit unveils memorial dedicated to Afghanistan War
The Martin Park redevelopment turned out nice. The Lynx on the Bailey bridge is a nice touch. Next step is landscaping. HCol Bob Williams, HLCol Dave Stones (LCol retd) and the FGH Association really stepped up on this one. The whole idea is to honour the First and Second World War troops with the Sherman, the Cold War troops with the Lynx and the GWOT troops with the LAV. I'm unsure if it's proceeding but there was talks of inscribing the names of all FGH and 38 CER Afghanistan veterans on a plaque on the side of the LAV.
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Armed Forces Day was in the early summer.
I remember doing stuff for it in Gagetown, Petawawa, and Calgary, but don’t recall doing anything for it past 1995/6.
The various knee jerk issues of being able to go to work in uniform or not was bubbling around that time as well
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Winnipeg residents may, or may not, find this map of interest on Rembrance Day,
It shows Winnipegs First World War ( only ) dead.
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yeah... I was mathing pretty wrong.
The point still stands, despite the terrible match. Most Canadians don't personally know anyone who served, or if they do it's a somewhat distant acquaintance. Remember, that these days most of that number came from the towns around bases, despite there being a lot of reservists who also served there.
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It's still alive. First Sunday in June.
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Me and my wife have our own view of things based on the old definition of a veteran as someone that has served in the military.
Veteran - someone that has served in the military and completed basic training
War Veteran - someone that has served during a period of war regardless of where they served. Each and every one serving at that time could have been sent over at the whim of the military. We count Afghan, Korea as wars, screw the gov bs
Combat Veteran - naturally someone that actually went to the war locations serving in the combat zone. These are the ones that unfortunately were not taken care of properly while there and upon return to Canada.
Remembrance Day is for the combat vets. I always feel a bit uncomfortable when people thank me for my service as I am not a combat vet.
I do see that as others have mentioned Remembrance Day is becoming less noted in the general society so do support a Veteran event that links into Remembrance Day to keep the fire burning. Don't know how to accomplish that. Maybe a Veterans Day for all vets with a memorial week for all that were injured and died in service ending with Remembrance Day centred on those that died in the WWs? As I said, don't really know how but there is something needed to keep the link which is disappearing as most people don't know anyone that served in the wars so it is all ancient history to them.
Veteran - someone that has served in the military and completed basic training
War Veteran - someone that has served during a period of war regardless of where they served. Each and every one serving at that time could have been sent over at the whim of the military. We count Afghan, Korea as wars, screw the gov bs
Combat Veteran - naturally someone that actually went to the war locations serving in the combat zone. These are the ones that unfortunately were not taken care of properly while there and upon return to Canada.
Remembrance Day is for the combat vets. I always feel a bit uncomfortable when people thank me for my service as I am not a combat vet.
I do see that as others have mentioned Remembrance Day is becoming less noted in the general society so do support a Veteran event that links into Remembrance Day to keep the fire burning. Don't know how to accomplish that. Maybe a Veterans Day for all vets with a memorial week for all that were injured and died in service ending with Remembrance Day centred on those that died in the WWs? As I said, don't really know how but there is something needed to keep the link which is disappearing as most people don't know anyone that served in the wars so it is all ancient history to them.
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