Maxman1
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Exactly. People don't want to join to serve on the old subs that are infamous for not working, or catching fire on the first voyage to Canada.
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OldSolduer
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Agreed - maybe an aggressive recruiting drive showing young people what action on a sub could be like.
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Your probably not wrong. A lot of people wanted to sail AOPS for the exact reason they were new and had an interesting mission set. CPF been there done that.
Also if you get seasick easily submarines are the way to go. That's a selling point for some. Once word gets out with new more roomy subs people will switch.
Halifax Tar
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Bingo.
A fellow CHOD is a former submariner, he would beg to differ about sea sickness and submarines.
stoker dave
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I will point out that serving in a submarine is not an option for those that enjoy fresh air, outdoor exercise, looking at nature (the occasional whale, seabird, sunrise/sunset and the stars) and the occasional BBQ.
There was a 'jogging track' around Protecteur: 5 laps = 1 mile.
Stargazing on a clear night at sea when far from land can be magical.
There was a 'jogging track' around Protecteur: 5 laps = 1 mile.
Stargazing on a clear night at sea when far from land can be magical.
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Lifebouy Sentry up off the coast of Norway was incredible....northern lights every night...crisp fresh air...beautiful scenery when we went through VestFjorden, it was amazing.
In a sub, you're looking at the inside of a smelly tin can, and no way to open the window when buddy beside you drops his guts...
Maybe new subs will be different that way, but there was a lot of truth to the phrase 'dirty submariner' back in the day.
In a sub, you're looking at the inside of a smelly tin can, and no way to open the window when buddy beside you drops his guts...
Maybe new subs will be different that way, but there was a lot of truth to the phrase 'dirty submariner' back in the day.
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That was one of the nice parts of standing periscope watches is I have seen sunset from the periscope at sea.
RangerRay
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That’s long been my motto. Get cool stuff, be prepared to get stampeded at recruiting centres.
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do we have a picture of these new roomy subs? From the inside?
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Ive been in one museum sub once somewhere. Roomy it was not lol. An Oberon?
Oldgateboatdriver
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Correct. Likely Onondaga at the Pointe-au-Pere / Rimouski submarine museum.
And they were roomy, compared to the American Tench class that preceded them : ). Just like everything else "warship", they have been growing steadily. I believe that Korean ones have more than one deck and messdecks/cabins for all without the need to wait for the torpedoes to be launched before you can cease hot-bunking.
And they were roomy, compared to the American Tench class that preceded them : ). Just like everything else "warship", they have been growing steadily. I believe that Korean ones have more than one deck and messdecks/cabins for all without the need to wait for the torpedoes to be launched before you can cease hot-bunking.
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And to add show on an ad what a mission might be like without giving away too much.
Like diving the sub, surfacing, maybe tracking a target...
Don't show them swabbing the decks or anything remotely to do with shining brass....
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Possibly a language barrier miscommunication, but my takeaway from a conversation with a Korean submariner was that they hot bunk on KSS-II.
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I agree. I toured France’s first nuc boat a few years back in Cherbourg and roomy was not a word I’d use.
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So you're saying all these people in their basements gaming for days on end are prime candidates for Subs?...
Cautionary tale re. the cost of nuclear subs. Not surprising in the slightest. Another reason to stay far away from Pillar 1 membership.
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AUKUS will 'cannibalize' other programs with no budget boost: Former top Aussie general - Breaking Defense
At the same conference, US Deputy Secretary of State Kurt Campbell urged the incoming Trump administration to work closely with Australia and New Zealand to counter a "relentless" China and not to turn inward.
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Japan not taking part in procurement bid for Canadian Navy's new subs
With billions of dollars at stake and Arctic security concerns, Canada’s submarine procurement competition is poised to be one of the decade's most sought after deals.
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Looks like it’s sayonara to the possibility of Japanese-built subs.
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Smart move by Japan. I wonder if they decided to duck the GBA freight train and politics of Canadian defence procurement heading their way.
Also they are furiously busy building their own fleet.
Also they are furiously busy building their own fleet.
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