Replacing the Subs

[Colin Parkinson]

Which likley means the decision is already made and it's about messaging and timing now.

 

[Czech_pivo]

Which likley means the decision is already made and it's about messaging and timing now.

That's a fair assumption, if not that, they are in final stages to crossing the 't's' and dotting the 'i's'. I'm sure that the embedded CDN crew members over the last few weeks have been extensively debriefed for their observations and comments.

 

[PHughes]

Looks like official confirmation that SK is giving nukes.

Which means the KSS III is an orphaned design.

Buyer bewar, future developments and upgrades are on your dime

 

[SeaKingTacco]

Looks like official confirmation that SK is giving nukes.

Which means the KSS III is an orphaned design.

Buyer bewar, future developments and upgrades are on your dime

Orphaned, in what sense?

If we (hypothetically- I have no inside knowledge) opt for the KSS III and buy 12, along with the ones the ROKN have, this would still make it one of the largest class of DE subs produced in modern times.

 

[Furniture]

Looks like official confirmation that SK is giving nukes.

Which means the KSS III is an orphaned design.

Buyer bewar, future developments and upgrades are on your dime

I'm not following your logic. They are building the KSS III, and starting development on a nuke boat. They will operate their KSS IIIs, likely for decades, just like Canada would if they bought them.

 

[Czech_pivo]

Orphaned, in what sense?

If we (hypothetically- I have no inside knowledge) opt for the KSS III and buy 12, along with the ones the ROKN have, this would still make it one of the largest class of DE subs produced in modern times.

Could be a natural transition down the road for us to move from these subs (if we select them) over to the SK nuc boats.

 

[HavokFour]

A little bit of coverage of what is on offer if we go with TKMS.

German submarine bid promises Canada $86B economic boost and tens of thousands of jobs​

 

[WestIsle]

A little bit of coverage of what is on offer if we go with TKMS.

German submarine bid promises Canada $86B economic boost and tens of thousands of jobs​

With no details provided is it wrong to assume this is just Germany throwing numbers at the wall and seeing what gets peoples attention.

 

[Czech_pivo]

A little bit of coverage of what is on offer if we go with TKMS.

German submarine bid promises Canada $86B economic boost and tens of thousands of jobs​

Back of the napkin math - for what its worth - the article quotes approx. 655,000 'job years' over the lifespan of the project. If we apply that number against the 12 subs, that's approx. 54,000 'job years' per sub. Apply that over a 25yr lifespan, that's 2,180 'job years' for sub.

 

[MilEME09]

Mark your calendars, defense minister just said at cansec the decision will be in the next 4 to 5 weeks.

 

[quadrapiper]

With no details provided is it wrong to assume this is just Germany throwing numbers at the wall and seeing what gets peoples attention.

SK certainly seems to be doing a better public job of laying out their pitch.

 

[Retired AF Guy]

Orphaned, in what sense?
If we (hypothetically- I have no inside knowledge) opt for the KSS III and buy 12, along with the ones the ROKN have, this would still make it one of the largest class of DE subs produced in modern times.

Canada is not the only country SK is trying to sell the KS-III to. They have also proposed a variant(1) of the KS-III to the Philippines and possibly to Greece which is looking to purchase four subs.

(1) No AIP or VLS.