Replacing the Subs

[Colin Parkinson]

I can provide a shopping list SK can easily fill, if he needs one....

 

[Colin Parkinson]

I know it's tricky logistically but if they commit to build parts factories in Canada, Id be super cool with all our shit being South Korean made. They make top notch stuff.

If you look at the contracts SKK has done, they are quite willing to be flexible on terms.

 

[PrairieFella]

If you look at the contracts SKK has done, they are quite willing to be flexible on terms.

Exactly. They're an awesome defence and industry partner.

 

[GR66]

And can our new subs bring their kid brothers with them???

Kongsberg’s new underwater drone completes longest autonomous dive

Kongsberg Discovery, a division of Norwegian defense contractor KONGSBERG, has achieved a significant milestone with the HUGIN Endurance Autonomous Underwater Vehicle (AUV). As noted by the company, the 8-ton, 40-foot AUV successfully completed a multi-week, fully autonomous mission, showcasing...

defence-blog.com

Have an AOPS deploy a couple of these equipped with towed arrays in support of a manned sub to expand the area they can patrol. There's even Canadian options as well.

 

[Czech_pivo]

https://twitter.com/x/status/1833509444824797530

doing some legwork to see how we can up our defence spending

Anyone willing to place bets that something comes out of this meeting by Thanksgiving?

 

[dimsum]

Anyone willing to place bets that something comes out of this meeting by Thanksgiving?

I’m actually surprised he waited so long to go to the ROK.

There is a Canadian officer as part of the UNC leadership there.

 

[Cloud Cover]

I generally only got tired and had a headache. If I had a nap, I was good to go.

However, the older I got, the more sensitive to motion I became. I recall once on PRO coming back to ESQ from San Diego where we were very light and the ship was pitching- alot. The forward house (where the wardroom was) was a freight elevator to hell. I skipped breakfast/lunch/dinner that day and hung out in my rack- that was a bad day. The deck was Waaayyyyy out of limits (2 pitch, 4 roll were the limits: we were pitching through 15 with the occasional 20 that day), so we were not flying and I was not missing anything. Probably 10 years earlier, I would have shook that off.

Walking aft through the dispersal area to the hangar, you could feel the exact point when you hit the centre of moment for the ship. Everything was chaos in both directions- dead calm where you stood.

Long time ago I was standing Port wing watch with Provider just 200 meters ahead. We were in a full-on gale halfway to Alaska and every now and again I would watch Provider climb and then tip over a huge wave and her screws were turning in the air as she slid down the back side. That’s a lot of weight being thrown around.
Our little IRE was probably doing the same. It was the only time I can remember looking up at waves we were steaming into and if you looked aft it was very unnerving. Finally the CO told us to get off the wings and get inside the bridge, and that’s where I tossed everything.

 

[Rainbow1910]

Anyone willing to place bets that something comes out of this meeting by Thanksgiving?

Bill Blair is also stopping in Japan throughout this trip, I wouldn't be so sure that the Koreans have anything near locked in especially with how early in the program we are.

 

[SeaKingTacco]

I am probably going to hate myself for saying this but:

Bill Blair is exceeding my (admittedly low) expectations for him as MND.

 

[Good2Golf]

I am probably going to hate myself for saying this but:

Bill Blair is exceeding my (admittedly low) expectations for him as MND.

…at least he is picking up what Austin is laying down…

 

[calculus]

And can our new subs bring their kid brothers with them???

Kongsberg’s new underwater drone completes longest autonomous dive

Kongsberg Discovery, a division of Norwegian defense contractor KONGSBERG, has achieved a significant milestone with the HUGIN Endurance Autonomous Underwater Vehicle (AUV). As noted by the company, the 8-ton, 40-foot AUV successfully completed a multi-week, fully autonomous mission, showcasing...

defence-blog.com

Have an AOPS deploy a couple of these equipped with towed arrays in support of a manned sub to expand the area they can patrol. There's even Canadian options as well.

Quite a few other options from Cellula, including the Solus XR, with a 5000Km range. Canadian AUV tech takes a back seat to no one.

Solus Family — Cellula Robotics

www.cellula.com

Also these guys:

Home - International Submarine Engineering

ISE has been a world leader in the design and integration of subsea autonomous and remote vehicles and terrestrial robotics since 1974.

ise.bc.ca

 

[Retired AF Guy]

Bill Blair is also stopping in Japan throughout this trip, I wouldn't be so sure that the Koreans have anything near locked in especially with how early in the program we are.

Interestingly he is spending four days in S. Korea, but only two days in Japan. More on his itinerary here:

https://www.miragenews.com/minister-blair-to-visit-south-korea-japan-1311584/

 

[Colin Parkinson]

For the Japanese to enter into the Arms Market with us as a buyer is likley to fail. They are inexperienced and we are nuts. From a negotiation POV, I think South Korea is much better placed to hold our hand and know when to say no early on.

 

[Rainbow1910]

For the Japanese to enter into the Arms Market with us as a buyer is likley to fail. They are inexperienced and we are nuts. From a negotiation POV, I think South Korea is much better placed to hold our hand and know when to say no early on.

If this was a typical Canadian procurement program where widescale "Canadianization" was on the table, I would generally agree. The Japanese are top notch ship designers and builders however, having them deal with much of the process we usually take would be a death sentence given their export experience. With Canada seemingly looking at a largely off the shelf design though, Japan's odds look far better than they would otherwise. I still think South Korea and especially Germany have better chances, but I wouldn't discount the Japanese as a contender just yet.

 

[OldSolduer]

For the Japanese to enter into the Arms Market with us as a buyer is likley to fail. They are inexperienced and we are nuts. From a negotiation POV, I think South Korea is much better placed to hold our hand and know when to say no early on.

If South Korea builds subs like they do Samsung TVs.....that's good with me.