Replacing the Subs

[Nvlgzr]

You don't think Korea, Japan, and Australia would "keep an eye" on the Pacific for the Americans while they're occupied? You don't think that if a Canadian sub showed up that those three wouldn't say "uhh... no thanks, we know these waters a LOT better than you."

Was there not talk a few years back about forward locating to Guam?

 

[Genetk44]

No but really, go on google maps and actually LOOK at the Korean yards. You'll see one company's yards which has 4 massive ships being built in a single dry dock and think "holy shit!", and THEN go and realized that some of these companies have multiple sets of these dry docks, and there a several companies in Korea with the same level of capacity. It's insane.

The first Type 212 CD had its keel laid in 2023, is approx 80% complete and on schedule for a 2029 delivery

It is 80% complete but only scheduled for a 2029 delivery??? 3 more years to complete the remaining 20% and have her fit for service….seems absurdly long

 

[KevinB]

It is 80% complete but only scheduled for a 2029 delivery??? 3 more years to complete the remaining 20% and have her fit for service….seems absurdly long

New type of boat, so there will be manufacturers trials before the turn over.

 

[Genetk44]

New type of boat, so there will be manufacturers trials before the turn over.

Ok I understand….but still another 3 years? Seems a slow timeline.

 

[Colin Parkinson]

Was there not talk a few years back about forward locating to Guam?

For the first year of each sub delivered, base it out of Korea, that way the sub can have warranty issues fixed there and rotate crews over on perhaps a two month rotation?

 

[Furniture]

You don't think Korea, Japan, and Australia would "keep an eye" on the Pacific for the Americans while they're occupied? You don't think that if a Canadian sub showed up that those three wouldn't say "uhh... no thanks, we know these waters a LOT better than you."

I don't think they'd be so dumb.

They'd likely say "Thanks for lending a hand, because with America pre-occupied in Europe, China is more likely to need extra watching."

 

[Retired AF Guy]

The first Type 212 CD had its keel laid in 2023, is approx 80% complete and on schedule for a 2029 delivery

Thank you. Should have checked that!

 

[Kirkhill]

It seems to me that the VLS system means more stand-off capability meaning more sea area covered by fire. Surface targets can be engaged by ballistic and cruise missiles over hundreds of kilometers. Submarines can be engaged with ASROC type solutions.

Even long range torpedoes seem to require closing to ranges of less than 100 km. That makes the ASW search area for the enemy kind of small.

 

[PHughes]

TKMS has purchased a 2nd yard and made significant $$investments to expand their production capacity. They currently can build 2 boats per year and will expand that to 4+ boats to deal with their current backlog of 20+ boats

Busy place. They have hinted getting the CPSP deal will allow them to expand to 6-7 boats per year .

TBD