Replacing the Subs

[Eaglelord17]

at this point, South Korea, and Hanwha have put so much carrots into investing into Canada, to the potential tune of creating hundreds of thousands of jobs, and billions of dollars to our GDP. I don't foresee how its possible that their bid doesn't win when the RFP closes at the end of the month

I hope SK wins. They have so much to potentially offer which Europe will charge more for in a longer time frame. We need equipment today (thanks to our complete lack of seriousness as nation and allowing ourselves to become more or less defenceless) not some imaginary date a decade away.

The industrial benefits are also much more substantial due to how SK industry functions.

 

[Underway]

I have no vote in the matter but I'm team (S)SK at this point. I think that there is much more future growth potential in the SK bid and the timelines are better. Bit inwill not complain of a GerNor submarine. It's an excellent choice and may lead to future naval cooperation on other platforms as well.

 

[Lumber]

One big concern I have, which I'm curious whether is even being considered at high levels (though I doubt it would be made public) is that in an all out war between China and the US, I feel it's likely China would include SK in their target list due to their Western leaning and the fact that there are so many US assets there that can't be ignored, and in such a scenario, their entire ship building capacity could be literally leveled in the opening salvo with long range LACMs fired from mainland China.

 

[Czech_pivo]

One big concern I have, which I'm curious whether is even being considered at high levels (though I doubt it would be made public) is that in an all out war between China and the US, I feel it's likely China would include SK in their target list due to their Western leaning and the fact that there are so many US assets there that can't be ignored, and in such a scenario, their entire ship building capacity could be literally leveled in the opening salvo with long range LACMs fired from mainland China.

Yes, sounds logical. Hence the reason why they may want to build in some redundancy into their system and offshoring some of this in Canada might be prudent.
A comprehensive maintenance/repair facility in BC would allow them to move their remaining subs to BC for repair/refit/resupply.

 

[Oldgateboatdriver]

I agree with Czech_pivo here. From the start, I saw the actions of SK as an attempt to offset some of the risks to their facilities from China.

Think about it this way: If war with China breaks out, what side is Canada going to be on? And then, would Canada object to SK transferring to Canada a large number of their specialized shipbuilding manpower to expand their shipyard in Canada and build for both countries?

 

[Czech_pivo]

Yes, sounds logical. Hence the reason why they may want to build in some redundancy into their system and offshoring some of this in Canada might be prudent.
A comprehensive maintenance/repair facility in BC would allow them to move their remaining subs to BC for repair/refit/resupply.

Tying into this would be their dangling in front of us a production facility for torpedoes in Canada as it would allow them to continue to stay in the fight.

 

[Kirkhill]

How fast can the Koreans add new halls in Vancouver and Halifax and ramp up production?

It is what they did for Seaspan and what they are doing for the States.

 

[Oldgateboatdriver]

In war time, things can go up pretty fast.

 

[Czech_pivo]

I agree with Czech_pivo here. From the start, I saw the actions of SK as an attempt to offset some of the risks to their facilities from China.

Think about it this way: If war with China breaks out, what side is Canada going to be on? And then, would Canada object to SK transferring to Canada a large number of their specialized shipbuilding manpower to expand their shipyard in Canada and build for both countries?

Would we have a legal obligation to defend SK under the existing UN mandate around the Armistice between NK/China/SK if China attacked?