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I don't see any of our shipyards getting to that level of automation or level of training - ever. Welcome to be told otherwise.
Replacing the Subs
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MilEME09
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At this level of automation, I wouldn't be surprised that the moment after the contract is signed someone called up the shipyard, had a button pressed and steel starts cutting 5 minutes later.
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Noah posted about rumours SK/Hanwha was looking to buy a Canadian shipyard
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That would be the only way possible - but only IF they don't buy a unionized yard as I don't see them having a chance in hell in getting to their level of automation in a union shop. Again, happy to be wrong here.
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I think Noah is going to post more about it on their website today.
Irving/Seaspan/Davie or a smaller yard like Ontario Shipyards?
If the yards are having a hard time finding workers no one should oppose automation that still leads to more work
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The automation is moving ahead slowly, computerized cutting tables, pipe welding machines, mini welding robots. Even that "Dockboy" hull cleaning machine I posted awhile ago makes a difference. If you can have robot prep and weld in a confined space, then you make life easier for everyone. You still need a fire watch and a welder outside surpervising.
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If true, I'm kind of hoping they eat Irving.
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I'm just going to throw this out there, if they buy anything, maybe they try and buy the old Saint John shipyard off of Irving. It has the space to grow into something quite large and it offers a 'blank slate' to build it into something modern, high tech and automated right from the beginning.
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They could add in the Sub maintenance in the same location.
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ahhh so maybe just to do with the submarine maintenance and not general shipbuilding
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Would they not need a location on each coast?
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The speculation is that Hanwha has been engaging for future space for dedicated maintenance facilities on both coasts...
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Its interesting that at the end of the clip, they show a KS-III submarine and that the US is having problems making submarines, not realizing that the USN subs are all nuclear and that South Korean doesn't make nuclear subs (yet!).
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I believe:
1. Hanwah owns or is acquiring the Philly Naval Shipbuilding yard;
2. The Trump Admin agreed last year to assist South Korea with developing their own SMNR for marine usage;
The writing is on the wall for a Hanwah subsidiary to build nuclear submarines in the United States.
They’ll probably have that up and in production before the first AUKUS boat is in the water.
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If we go Korean, likley the first sub stays in Korea and the crews trains there cycling in and out. And when the 2nd is launched, the first sails to Esquimalt, the transition of the submarine repair facility likley starts as soon as the first boat is launched, with the first boat back in Canada, the Victoria's are decommissioned or transferred to another navy.
The Philippine Navy is looking to acquire subs, who knows they might take the Vics as a interim training sub and train here in the west Coast and then move onto a new platform later.
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or most likely Korea will lend us a submarine and train us in its use. As soon as the first one is ready we'll sail it to Canada and base our training in Canada. There's no appetite to pawn these subs off to the Philippines. Breakers yard or as a museum most likely for at least one.
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Quite possible they would lend us one, but if everything is labelled in Korean that is a lot of work to relabel. Possibly a training sub where a mixed crew to train up Canadians.
As for the Philippines, they intend to start a submarine force. If we get our KSS-III, then we could run a Vic as a training sub with a mixed crew as well. Looking at their timeline, it might work. Another option is we start now with some of their Officers attached to our subs to learn how to be submariners.
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We can't get enough bunks for our submariners now, let alone giving up bunks to the Philippine Navy. Also factor in that our subs don't do well in tropical environments as they were built for the North Atlantic and Baltic. Same reason why we didn't sell the Kingston Class to the Philippine Navy.
I suppose I could be dead wrong but I expect they will not be pawned off to anyone else given their spotty history and the reasons above.
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If we were unwilling to sell or "pawn off" the far less advanced and sensitive Kingston class, no way in hell the RCN is giving a bunch of SSK's to some backwater given the equipment inside.
