Req : Possible Griffon Replacement

[The Bread Guy]

Why not Blackhawks?

Off the rack = not enough Canadian content?

 

[Loachman]

Why not Blackhawks?

No capability - related reason.

The main reason would be political - we have a Bell plant in Mirabel, which may make a purchase a little more palatable. 85% commonality with AH1Z is nice but of no significance as we are unlikely to purchase an AH.

After doing some quick searching around the internet, my earlier assumptions no longer seem to be valid. UH1Y was originally billed as "giving Black Hawk (correct spelling - two words) performance at half of the cost". While costs vary wildly from site-to-site, as does key performance information, Black Hawk cost is generally claimed to be the lesser while it can lift more (8000 lbs vice 6660 lbs for UH1Y). Lower UH60 cost is likely due to economy-of-scale - far, far more have been built.

UH1Y does come with a FLIR system, though, and is designed to be armed.

Either would be a major step up.

 

[Colin Parkinson]

Not sure if they have any left, but we could get some slightly used Blackhawks https://www.army.mil/article/128123/Exchange_of_A_model_Black_Hawks_generates_significant_cost_savings

 

[Good2Golf]

Not sure if they have any left, but we could get some slightly used Blackhawks https://www.army.mil/article/128123/Exchange_of_A_model_Black_Hawks_generates_significant_cost_savings

Sweet!  We could also save money over F-35 by buying some original Hornets from the early-80's.

 

[McG]

Sweet!  We could also save money over F-35 by buying some original Hornets from the early-80's.

Do they come in blue?

See Canada here:  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ASq2CYZlqD0

 

[BurmaShave]

Sweet!  We could also save money over F-35 by buying some original Hornets from the early-80's.

Screw gently-used Hornets. What we really need is to resurrect the world-beating, cancelled-by-the-Americans-cause-they-afraid CF-105 Avro Arrow. With quick dab of the stealth juice, we could have a made-in-Canada replacement for the F-18 at 1/4th the price of competitors!  8)

(It don't have anything to do with helos...I just saw that idea on Facebook and needed to vent before I exploded)

 

[George Wallace]

Screw gently-used Hornets. What we really need is to resurrect the world-beating, cancelled-by-the-Americans-cause-they-afraid CF-105 Avro Arrow. With quick dab of the stealth juice, we could have a made-in-Canada replacement for the F-18 at 1/4th the price of competitors!  8)

(It don't have anything to do with helos...I just saw that idea on Facebook and needed to vent before I exploded)

Here we go again.....Resurecting the Avro Arrow thread are we?    [

Lobbying to replace the F-35 with (a modernized) Avro Arrow