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RUMINT of Canada wanting more C-17's

tomahawk6

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Last C17 orders being completed. For quite awhile the USAF has sought to end the program but it is an aircraft in demand unless a new aircraft is designed. Ukraine builds big transports maybe we could do a deal to replace the C5. 

https://www.defenseindustrydaily.com/last-of-the-globemasters-the-usafs-final-orders-05283/
 

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C-390 project seems off the rails.  Prospective orders in play since 2010 and only 4 prototypes made to date.  Not a good option until throughput increased, -390 was in initial bid for FWSAR but never made it to bid.
 

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Spencer100 said:
...the tooling is gone...
Have heard that about a few aircraft production lines; F-22 comes to mind. Is whatever actual kit is in question not amenable to mothballing, or is there some other practical factor at work? Or is it just manufacturers not wanting to hang onto equipment that isn't making them money?
 

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quadrapiper said:
Have heard that about a few aircraft production lines; F-22 comes to mind. Is whatever actual kit is in question not amenable to mothballing, or is there some other practical factor at work? Or is it just manufacturers not wanting to hang onto equipment that isn't making them money?

I believe that it’s all about supply and demand.

Since the major effort in Central Asia ended a few years ago (demand), there’s no need for more big logistics airframes (supply).
 

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daftandbarmy said:
I believe that it’s all about supply and demand.

Since the major effort in Central Asia ended a few years ago (demand), there’s no need for more big logistics airframes (supply).
Makes sense as far as the production line closing down; was wondering if there was a technical reason for not stowing unique elements of the production line (molds? frames? jigs?) against future need.
 

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daftandbarmy said:
I believe that it’s all about supply and demand.

Since the major effort in Central Asia ended a few years ago (demand), there’s no need for more big logistics airframes (supply).

We are in many way s busier now than then...because we are spread out all over the world.  We need more now than then.
 

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To add to that, any operation we undertake will be strategic in nature, just due to our geography.  I agree with PPCLIGuy, the strategic fleet is more in demand now than it was during Afghanistan, as we are now providing aircraft all over the world instead of focusing our efforts on one region/hub. 
 

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PPCLI Guy said:
We are in many way s busier now than then...because we are spread out all over the world.  We need more now than then.

Given that we cant get more C-17's should we invest in more Hercs?
 

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MilEME09 said:
Given that we cant get more C-17's should we invest in more Hercs?
Rumour is we have more J-model hercs than crews to fly them.
 

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dapaterson said:
Replace (and expand) the Polaris fleet first (with a larger multipurpose civil aircraft).

FTFY

The C17 and the Herc are necessary for "the end of days scenarios" where runways aren't available. They should be husbanded for those occasions.

For the routine business of flying from Trenton, Winnipeg or Edmonton to Cologne or Dubai, where the skies are open enough that military flights are competing with civil flights for landing spots, then cheaper civil aircraft seem like a better bet. 

Kind of like hiring a civilian ship to supply the Navy.
 
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