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Rumsfeld, Iraq and Transformation

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http://www.nationalreview.com/script/printpage.asp?ref=/owens/owens200501050715.asp

This neatly sums up some of the problems, and for that it is useful, but it is wanting in terms of supplying prescriptions.  Still an interesting read.
 
On a related note, there were two interesting articles recently in Stars and Stripes.

"Army Preparing Older Vehicles For Iraq Use"(05 Jan)

This article describes how the US Army is spending 84million to up-armour a total of 734 semi-retired M113s and M577 (CP variants) with bolt-on, slat and anti-mine armour. Reportedly "Army officials"  have been trying for two years to get these older APCs released for duty in Iraq. These vehicles will be sent to Iraq to replace the up-armoured HMMVWs, which have been found to be inadequate against the threats in Iraq, especially IEDs. An interesting comments was quoted from "Army officials":

"...the M113...was more useful, cheaper and easier to transport than the Army's new wheeled Stryker armoured vehicle..."


"DOD Budget Would Cut High-Tech Items" (06 Jan)

This article states that due to increasing costs of the GWOT, as well as a seroius US budget deficit, billions will be  cut from advanced weapon systems projects such as  a stealth air superiority fighter, a stealth destroyer, a modernized air transport fleet and nextgen SSN's. The big cuts (up to 55 billion over six years) will be absorbed by the Navy and Air Force, in favour of the Army. The Army may receive an additional 25 billion instead of being cut. The funds diverted from these high tech programs will be diverted to a wide range of more "nuts and bolts" stuff for the Army, including such things as the transformation program to break the Army down into combined-arms brigade combat teams (very much like a Canadian CMBG) instead of the current division structure, spare parts, and other mundane things. The article says that the US is refocusing "...spending from its vision of a transformed fighting force to the more down-to-earth needs of its ground troops..."

Mr Rumsfeld, wherefore art thou?

Cheers.
 
"...the M113...was more useful, cheaper and easier to transport than the Army's new wheeled Stryker armoured vehicle..."

I approach this one with fear, sure that the thread can get hi-jacked (can I hi-jack my own thread?) Moderator, if this becomes a "Gavin-Stryker" debate please send it to the Vehicles file.

Here goes.

More useful, cheaper, easier to transport....

The M113 is easier to transport than the Stryker.  Will that be true if each unit is uparmoured as described (slats, steel on top of the existing aluminum and new anti-mine base plates) as well as having an enclosed bullet-proof glass turret for the gunner in place of the Remote Weapons System?  Or will all the extra gear have to added after the M113 rolls off the backend of the Herc, just like has to happen with the Stryker?

Cheaper. Certainly, as they are pre-existing bare metal boxes that have been written down long ago.  But even at the 84 mill to uparmour 734 units that equates to something like 114,000 per vehicle, just for the armour.  Does that include all the neat screens, radios and netware found in the Stryker? The RWS alone is priced somewhere in the 200,000 range according to an article that I saw about supplying equivalent units for mounting on Humvees to protect gunners on patrol and convoy escort.

More useful.  Here I have few questions.  No doubt it can go more places than a Stryker, normally.  Can it still go the same places with all the extra armour on it?  Are they up-engining the vehicles as well?  Changing track-width?  While very useful in open country how is it on the roads in town?  How effective is it on convoy escort with trucks travelling hundreds of miles at highway speed?

Having said all of that I do think that the M113 has a role in providing protected mobility for Quick Reaction Forces, especially in rural areas (interesting thought in the Canadian Militia context - rubber bands instead of steel tracks), and I do think they are needed out there and could find a role in any force, the US, the Iraqi and ours. And it is silly not to use them when they are available. I just don't like the constant comparison to the Stryker.  If find them complementary horses designed for different courses.

I think this was one of the points in Owens article.  Transformation isn't about technology so much as it is about mindset.  It is about not spending fifty years building a team and setting up a play book to fight one battle.  And then hoping that the enemy shows up and offers to play by your rules.  It is about flexibility, acaptability and making do with what's available (whether it is in stock or can be purchased from your local Radio Shack or local sporting goods outfitter).  In many respects, I see the transformation of the American army as a transformation from a force that had developed a fixed view of military activity on a very narrow spectrum of operations, a luxury that it could afford due to political and financial considerations, a view that carried with it a degree of arrogance.  The transformation that was needed and is occuring is to something that is more like the Marines, the Brits and the Canadians. More all-singing, all-dancing.  More flexible and adaptable.  More useable.  That is about mindset and attitude.  Not about kit.
 
Good questions about the U/A-M113s. My experience with them (I commanded a coy of tracks in Croatia that had bolt on armour and the "Cav" half-turret), was that the power plant and suspension system were badly stressed by the additional load, especially in hilly rough terrain, they were quite slow, and extremely noisy. As well, like any tracked vehicle they required more care and maintenance than wheeled vehs (even as OC I did my share of pounding track...) But, I think the US is getting pressed to meet a need for protected support vehicles that neither they nor we had fully realized. In the "fluid battlefield" or the "Three Block War", there really is no rear area that is safe for softskins. Cheers.
 
Perhaps the biggest problem is most people think "transformation" = silver bullets and other magic technology. This is the most visible element of transformation, but it is not as important as how you use the stuff i.e. organization and doctrine.

Reporters and politicians are fascinated by technology, and military types can easily "sell" programs with sexy new equipment (or trash opponents by citing the lack of sexy new equipment). It is easier to suggest the force is "transformed" because there is a new model tank or AFV sitting in the middle of the conference hall (or some mysterious looking black box plugged into an existing system) than to show dozens of powerpoint slides comparing old and new ORG charts.

The other opponent of transformation is the officer or bureaucrat who's "standing" is determined by the budget they control. Your project costs $x million, employs a huge staff and will put 55 new workstations in the ISTAR CC, so your program is much more "important" than my project which will halve the number of people needed in the CP, reduce overall system latency and is based on COTS technology which has a unit cost of @ $500 ea.

People are realizing (again) that it is not so much what you have as how you use it that is important. This is not to say that the equipment is not important, but rather that different types of equipment has to be used differently to get similar results. The "Cavalry" and "Combat Team of the Future" threads here in Army.ca were attempts to get to grips with these issues.

As for "Gavin vs Stryker", they are really different iterations of the "Battle Taxi" idea, and are actually complimentary in nature, since one offers high road mobility, while the other offers better cross country mobility. Since the enemy can choose to be anywhere, we would be better off with both rather than a single fleet.
 
You are right that Transformation is a code word for technology replacing manpower. This is where I  part company with our esteemed
SecDef. Each time the Army has reorganized we have fewer trigger pullers and fewer tanks, but we have more support troops. Our divisions have become bloated 22,000 man organizations that are short of infantry. Army transformation came up with FCS which was supposed to replace Bradley and Abram's MBT's. Its absurd to think you can create a 20t combat vehicle with the same survivability of a 70t MBT. The concept is to make the Army more mobile, more deployable. However, the weakness is that the USAF and USN have to transport the Army to war. The USAF will have only 120 C-17's which isnt enough for our current demand. If we then must rely on sealift to transport the Army why then is there a need to retire the Bradley and Abrams ? If we want to be transformational lets buy the Boeing Pelican WIG which is designed to haul 17 MBT's. Just 20 aircraft would enable the Army to move 340 MBT's anywhere in the world alot faster than by sea. The Army is not the USMC. The Army should be the heavy force that comes in behind the Marines to do the heavy lifting. The Marines are a rapid deployment force which they do quite well.

The FCS program needs to be canceled. The Army needs to be expanded to 600,000 to ease the strain on our reserve components.
The USN needs to maintain a 12 carrier force and +50 attack submarines. They should have enough sealift for a Marine division. The USN needs to build at least 5-6 ships a year to keep up with the decommissioning of older warships.

The USAF needs to continue to pursue Combat UAV's and maintain the current bomber fleet. The JSF is critical for the USAF air expeditionary forces. The F-22 due to its cost[+$200-300m per copy] will see 120 orders -if its not canceled. More C-17's and a replacement for the C-5 are needed.

Unfortunately in the budget battles it will be a bureaucratic free for all. So much for jointness.
 
I was reading news here and there and after reading the thread, this article provides
some parallels.  Definitely after the Iraq elections, things for the US military in Iraq must
change.



The Force Structure Problem
www.stratfor.com

By George Friedman

A memo written by Lt. Gen. James R. Helmly, head of the U.S. Army Reserve, was leaked to The Baltimore Sun. Addressed to the chief of staff of the Army, the memo stated that the Army Reserve was in danger of becoming a "broken force," due to personnel policies adopted by the Army and the Department of Defense. Helmly wrote, "The purpose of this memorandum is to inform you of the Army Reserve's inability . . . to meet mission requirements associated with Iraq and Afghanistan and to reset and regenerate its forces for follow-on and future missions."

When a three-star general writes a memo containing these words to the chief of staff, and then leaks the memo to the press (it did not arrive at the Sun through telepathy), what you have is a major revolt by senior Army commanders. Helmly may have been more incautious than others, but he is far from alone in his view that the force in general is broken. More directly, if the Army Reserve is unable to carry out its mission, the same can likely be said for National Guard units. This means that the Army in general, which is heavily dependent on both to carry out its mission, won't be able to do so. What the generals are saying is that the Army itself is unable to carry out its mission.

Part of this is a discussion of several procedures governing call-ups and other issues that have not changed since the Sept. 11 attacks. Some of it has to do with the extreme stress that reserve components are experiencing. All of it has to do with a revolt against Donald Rumsfeld and his policies toward the Army, policies that go back to Rumsfeld's view of warfare.

Rumsfeld believes that there is a revolution in warfare under way. As the author of The Future of War, I completely agree with him. However, as I stated in that book, the revolution is just getting under way and will not be mature for generations. It is not ready to carry the warfighting burden of the United States, although it can certainly support it. Until that revolution matures, traditional forces, particularly the Army, will need to be maintained and, in time of war, expanded.

Rumsfeld's view is that the revolution is more mature than that and that warfare can now be carried out with minimal Army forces. In some ways, Rumsfeld was right when he focused on the conventional invasion of Iraq. A relatively small force was able to defeat the main Iraqi force. Where he made his mistake, in my opinion, was in not recognizing that the occupation of Iraq required substantial manpower and that much of that manpower was in the reserves.

He compounded that mistake enormously when he failed to recognize that an organized insurgency was under way in Iraq. Counterinsurgency operations is one area in which the revolution in warfare has made little progress, and Rumsfeld should have hit the panic button on Army force structure when the insurgency picked up steam. In Iraq, Rumsfeld was going to fight a guerrilla war, and he was going to need a lot of infantry and armor to do it. If, in addition to fighting the guerrilla war, Rumsfeld planned to carry out other operations in the region and maintain a strategic reserve, he needed to expand the Army dramatically.

Rumsfeld made three mistakes. First, he overestimated the breadth and depth of the revolution in warfare. Second, he underestimated the challenges posed by counterinsurgency operations, particularly in urban areas. Mistakes are inevitable, but his third mistake was amazing: he could not recognize that he had made the first two mistakes. That meant that he never corrected any of the mistakes.

There is another way to look at this. The United States is in a global war. Personnel policies have not been radically restructured to take into account either that the U.S. needs a wartime force structure or that that force structure must be congruent with the type and tempo of operations that will be undertaken. Not only doesn't the force stretch, but the force is not built to stretch. Hence, Helmly's memo.

Essentially, this memo is an open challenge by Army generals to Rumsfeld, with the chief of staff caught in the middle. The situation is now officially out of hand. If the commander of the Army Reserve says that his command is not capable of carrying out its mission, and says it publicly, there is no way to cover that up. He is either going to be relieved of his command, or he is going to be given the tools to fix the problem. If he is going to be given those tools, then Rumsfeld's view is being repudiated and Rumsfeld has to go.

There is something more than politics at work here. It's called reality. Helmly is right. It seems to me that the handwriting is on the wall. Once the elections in Iraq are completed, dramatic changes will take place. Bush will call for an expansion of the Army and the reserves. In Iraq, U.S. forces will be shifted out of security responsibilities, where they are not effective anyway. And, incidentally, Rumsfeld will retire. Or, Rumsfeld will purge the senior ranks of the Army. Since that is not a viable option, we expect Bush will be forced to act on their recommendations.
 
Thanks for those posts, and thanks to our US friend tomahawk6 for joining us to give his view. I must say that both posts reflect to a great degree things I have heard during my time in Quantico (97-98) and now again from US folks here in Afgh. Naturally, they are proud of their respective services and do not wish to sound disloyal in front of foreigners, but they have concerns.

One of the things that came through loud and clear to me in Quantico was a feeling from officers that while the "official" image of the US forces was a super-high tech machine in which "HEY HEY ITS OK-EVERYTHING IS GREAT TODAY" there were a large number of boring, mundane, unsexy but important problems beginning to bubble under the shiny surface in each of the services, and that those at the top were wilfully not listening. It seems perhaps that those pots are now boiling over.

The difference between the US and Canada, IMHO, is that the resources and the political will exists "down there" to fix the problem: here we can't even get our old bills paid. Cheers.
 
Organizational transformation can probably "save the day" in Iraq and for the Reserve and NG components of the US Army. The United states is essentially wading into to fight with large, conventional force, when counter insurgency requires small scale precise applications of force.

If (and it is a BIG if) the Americans begin fighting the way the British did in Kenya and Malasia, or the Marines did in Viet Nam with the Civic Action Program (CAP), the insurgency would be knee capped in several ways:

a. Small units (section and platoon sized) interacting directly with local forces (Platoon and Company sized) would build the small unit skills of the local force very quickly.

b. Working and living in a villiage or neighbourhood, the "CAP" force would develop relationships with the locals, which will enhance the situational awareness and start developing intelligence on teh bad guys.

c. These forces are able to fend off attacks by the bad guys long enough for off stage players (Airmobile or mechanized) to arrive if needed.

d. They are small enough to not be a "provocative" presence in the area, especially since they are working and training with local soldiers/police/security forces.

The large forces could be withdrawn from the populated areas of Iraq to rest and refit, but still able to carry out "Fallujia" type operations if needed and provide an implicit warning to Syria, Iran and Saudi Arabia that intervention in Iraq will not be tolerated.
 
A little  off topic but please confirm for me that the Gavin is still not an official nor accepted name for the M113.
 
Organizational transformation Part VII

http://www.buzzmachine.com/archives/2005_01_06.html#008818
Gememeshaft

: Susan Crawford is at some egghead event about complexity and she's blogging it. That's guts.

In today's report, there's a fascinating bit from Mary Ann Allison of the Allison group saying that societies were once described by gemeinschaft (think community) and the, after the industrial revolution, as gesellschaft (think society). We're at a next stage:

Allison doesn't see these as oppositional systems, but rather as stages in evolution -- and she thinks we're at a big punctuation point prompted by the information revolution. The new society is gecyberschaft.

So if your unit of community in gemeinschaft was the village, it became "friends and family" in gesellschaft, and it's now your "primary attention group." You pay attention to that group (or groups, I'd hope she'd say) and to "groups of purpose" -- groups neither bound to a place nor to a particular bureaucracy.

In gemeinschaft, your status was ascribed (based on birth); in gesellschaft, it was achieved; and now, in gecyberschaft, it's assessed.

Is this on the final?

But seriously... It is a compelling concept: Has society fundamentally changed again? Are the old strings that tied us together replaced with (and tangled in) new strings that not only cut across geography, boundaries, and societies but also are created and valued in entirely new means and measurements? We are assessed not by our bloodline and not by our location or income or education but instead by our connections. Hmmmm.

: LATER: Matt Bruce calls gecybershaft "extreme language torture." Yes, I thought gememeshaft was a bit more elegant.

Think of how the author describes the previous stages in society; military units and regiments are often compared to "families".....
 
http://www.iht.com/articles/2005/01/04/news/deploy.html


This article talks about intentions to increase the number of embedded "military advisors" in Iraqi units.  That could go some way along the path that you are treading a_majoor.  Depends how big a contingent of advisors are to be embedded.  As well as supplying training and leadership they can supply something of a moral compass, a standard and also a direct sense of sharing the risk.  This type of thing has worked well in the past to stiffen forces.

As to das gemeinschaft, gesellschaft und gecyberschaft I think I get your point but does it relate directly to transformation in the sense we're discussing here?  Or am I just confused? Again?

And Ex-Dragoon, to my knowledge GAVIN is not a real name for the M113.  I used the name because it is used by that other chap with the axe to grind (can't remember his name) on M113s and I wouldn't want the discussion to go down that road.

Cheers.

 
Just a thought or two.

I think Rumsfeld is constantly being misinterpreted by the press, even the military press.  From where I sit, he's done some damn good things, such as canceling several unneeded programs.  He has shaken up the Pentagon and that's never a bad thing.  The universal symbol for bloated bureacracy ought to be a picture of the Pentagon.

That said, I'm certain some of his concepts are not workable, either from a practical, political standpoint or because they're wrong.  That's okay.  I'd rather have someone actually doing something for change than sitting on their status quo.  What did Patton say about good plans executed now vs. perfect plans executed the day after tomorrow?

Another thing to remember is that although the Army is the 'heavy lifter' and although the current shortage of trigger pullers is lamentable (and fixable), the majority of the tasks the US Army -- or any army -- must handle are NOT combat tasks.  Even when an army is engaged in combat the vast majority of its actions are non-combat or combat support.  Thus, the impetus toward improved technology and information systems will bear fruit in coming years -- by increasing the percentage of 'trigger pullers' in any increase in numbers the Army sees in the next few years.

Note that I'm not saying the gross percentage of combat types to support will change much.  My experience with information technology is that the process breeds its own support requirements.  This is not all bad, or even partly bad.  My department gets a lot more done now than they did even ten years ago because we do most of it electronically.  Our staff has grown, but not much.  We still accomplish more, per person, than in previous technology setups.

No doubt there are military planners who envision replacing some of the 'shooters' with toys.  These people will always be with us.  Remember the bombardment theorists of the thirties?  The lack of guns on USAF fighters during the early years of the Vietnam war?  Impractical crap has a way of getting blown out of the system once exposed to the realities of combat.  That is happening now.

But such starry-eyed individuals have their place.  Without them the military bureaucrats would never lift their heads above that endless sea of paperwork on which they feed and thrive.

Jim
 
Kirkhill said:
http://www.iht.com/articles/2005/01/04/news/deploy.html
As to das gemeinschaft, gesellschaft und gecyberschaft I think I get your point but does it relate directly to transformation in the sense we're discussing here? Or am I just confused? Again?

Transformation is and will be confusing. Perhaps this should become a separate thread under the Canadian Army, but the transformation of organizations and societies is really what is needed to effectively use new technology, or old technology in new ways. The best examples I can think of involve ancient civilizations. The Mycenaeans described in Homer saw combat as individual duels for glory and plunder. The Classical Greeks spoke the same language and used pretty much the same kit, but had a very different approach to warfare with close order phalanxes engaging in shock battle. The main difference? Mycenae was based around a very stratified "palace culture", while Classical Greece was an agrarian society where the farms were owned by the farmers.

If we, or the Americans want to successfully "transform", then our military culture must change as well. New soldiers immersed in a culture based on self selected "groups of purpose" (through Internet bulletin boards, chat rooms and IM, for example) will probably not be able to function effectively in a rigid hierarchical structure. Conversely, how well will we operate in a fluid 3-D battlespace without a clearly visible or defined enemy?

Transformation is a very deep subject, and far beyond my ramblings. Unless it is based on, and incorporates a lot of the underlying society, military transformation is bound to be very "choppy" and only partially effective.
 
Another thing to remember is that although the Army is the 'heavy lifter' and although the current shortage of trigger pullers is lamentable (and fixable), the majority of the tasks the US Army -- or any army -- must handle are NOT combat tasks.  Even when an army is engaged in combat the vast majority of its actions are non-combat or combat support.  Thus, the impetus toward improved technology and information systems will bear fruit in coming years -- by increasing the percentage of 'trigger pullers' in any increase in numbers the Army sees in the next few years.

Note that I'm not saying the gross percentage of combat types to support will change much.  My experience with information technology is that the process breeds its own support requirements.  This is not all bad, or even partly bad.  My department gets a lot more done now than they did even ten years ago because we do most of it electronically.  Our staff has grown, but not much.  We still accomplish more, per person, than in previous technology setups.

No doubt there are military planners who envision replacing some of the 'shooters' with toys.  These people will always be with us.  Remember the bombardment theorists of the thirties?  The lack of guns on USAF fighters during the early years of the Vietnam war?  Impractical crap has a way of getting blown out of the system once exposed to the realities of combat.  That is happening now.

But such starry-eyed individuals have their place.  Without them the military bureaucrats would never lift their heads above that endless sea of paperwork on which they feed and thrive.

The military version of increased productivity Jim?

I agree with you on the effects of technology, that the greatest impact probably occurs in areas like service support and combat support.  The technical end of the business.  Fewer truck drivers to carry goods due to bigger trucks, palletized and containerized loads, on board material handling cranes. Or fewer gunners serving automated cannons with longer ranges, more precise delivery and more effective ammunition. Everyone better served through digital comms.

In my view this means that in an army, any army, given a fixed number of bodies available due to budgets then a smaller proportion is necessary in service and combat support roles, which SHOULD free up more bodies for use as "shooters".

However I also accept your observation that once an organization is capable of doing "more with less" then there is a natural tendency for that organization to be asked to do more, tending to prop up the numbers necessary and a corollary tendency for management/leadership to want to find more for their people to do - either to keep their employees employed or to maintain their empire.

If I were the "King of the World" I wouldn't be getting rid of shooters, nor would I necessarily be adding bodies to the Army.  I would want to transform some of those support bodies into shooters when the opportunity presented itself to reduce the size of the support structure.  "As the opportunity presented",  not before the opportunity had been demonstrated.

I am a firm believer that Armies are primarily built around infanteers and the infanteer's ability to hold ground and Control Populations.  Everything else exists to support the infanteer in the field or to destroy threats to the infanteer.  It follows from that that the greater the amount of control you want to exert the more infanteers you need.  Buy as many as you can afford.

This type of re-roling runs into all sorts of road blocks.  One road block that shouldn't exist is the risk of command level appointments disappearing.  If the same number of bodies are kept on staff then presumably the same number of leadership positions are still available.  That seems to be the lesson of the 3ID transformation.  The existing F Echelon Brigade HQs had their units reallocated and redistributed while I believe either the Engrs or Arty lost pure units to F Echelon but became F Echelon Brigades themselves. 

Basically, where in WW2 it required a 1000 support bodies to deliver a particular effect to the battlefield and thus required a full Unit of Command it may only require 100 bodies today.  In WW2 the Formation Commander had to decide where he was going to direct the effort to support his plan.  He only had enough capability to support 1 or 2 main efforts.  Now, if the above ratio were true, he presumably can support 10 such efforts.  He is only being tasked to supply 4 or 5 freeing up 500 or 600 bodies that could be used to thicken the number of infanteers available.  Also, given that it is easier to ship infanteers than guns, tanks and trucks it makes it easier to strategically deploy effective forces.

I was just reading an article on a British exercise, now whether this was due to space constraints or otherwise, a unit working up for Iraq on a British range was using a 9 Warrior Platoon backed by 2 Challengers. I found this interesting because I was expecting to find the usual 14 IFVs and 3-4 MBTs.  I was wondering if this wasn't an experimentation with a new structure that would effectively maintain the number of rifles (both models have 9 section carriers) but reduces the number of bodies necessary to support the rifles as the effectiveness of the fire support increases.

What all of this argues for is, as a number of others have noted, the "downward diffusion of the combined arms concept" and the formation of smaller formations or larger multi-MOC Units.

The trades most impacted, by this change in view are probably the Armoured and Arty trades.  Their entire purpose and tradition is based around their kit. It is their reason for being.  Moreso than the job they have to do.  And it is the amount of their kit that is being reduced.

Perhaps double hatting them as riflemen would suffice, as in the Marines, and retaining their Units as mixed Units.



 
Just to complete the thought (had to go dig out the Mrs.)

In the Canadian context, the fact that two out of our three reg Armoured units had pre-existing Cavalry identities and that they have also been Recce tasked in the past could make the transition easier.

Personally I think that 12 roughly equivalent Units of Action (Task Forces if preferred - Regimental or Colonel Commanded forces) operating under 6 Cap Badges would not be a bad way to go. May be 10 identical with 2 weighted to more specialized ops like parachute or heavy armour.

The Brigades could act as the base sockets for the deployableTask Force plugs with the usual option of cross attaching sub-units as required by mission.

Cheers.
 
A-majoor,

I think here you are talking more about the nature of the transformation of the population as a supply of recruits aren't you?  And the impact on the force from that stand-point?  Isn't that more a case of changing selection and training requirements so as to remold the raw stock into the type of individuals needed?
 
Kirkhill said:
A-majoor,

I think here you are talking more about the nature of the transformation of the population as a supply of recruits aren't you? And the impact on the force from that stand-point? Isn't that more a case of changing selection and training requirements so as to remold the raw stock into the type of individuals needed?

I am, and since I am straying way out of arc, I have started a thread in the Canadian Army forum on this aspect of transformation.
 
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