Sept 2023 UKR Vet Recognition Incident (merged from several threads)

[Rifleman62]

Said it prior, Rota's resignation letter was unsigned and he was taking the fall for Trudeau.

 

[KevinB]

Said it prior, Rota's resignation letter was unsigned and he was taking the fall for Trudeau.

Well he was a Drama Teacher not a History Teacher after all

 

[ModlrMike]

Speaking of history, it may be that his choices are "walk in the snow" or "night of the long knives".

 

[Rifleman62]

Rota took a $90,000 annually hit on his salary and that affects his pension. Add his reputation.

I doubt he even saw his resignation letter until it was passed to the Speakers Office for release.

I don't think the Trudeau bus wheels touch the road. More of a hovercraft.

 

[Remius]

Even with Rota I saw this as an honest (but serious) mistake. Same with the PMO. Personally I thought Fergueson’s mistake was worse tbh.

But hiding it and disclosing it only after the media started digging is the bigger issue in my mind.

 

[The Bread Guy]

Even with Rota I saw this as an honest (but serious) mistake. Same with the PMO ...

I'd like to think invites to PM functions might be screened with just a titch more rigour than a Speaker's Office invite, though. Speaker & Co. missing it might be an honest (but "WTF?!?!?!" level) mistake, but whoever handles PM's invites missing this strikes me as a lot bigger deal ....

But hiding it and disclosing it only after the media started digging is the bigger issue in my mind.

.... ESPECIALLY with this in mind.

Speaking of history, it may be that his choices are "walk in the snow" or "night of the long knives".

Not enough people brave enough to pull out the knives (in spite of loyal party faithful and Team Red alumni offering all kinds of public advice/warnings from outside the bubble), and no public indications of any walks yet, so ....

 

[The Bread Guy]

Bumped with something relevant ....

Following controversy, all names will be left off Canadian monument to ‘victims of communism’

More than half the names originally planned to be inscribed on the Ottawa monument have been linked to Nazis

www.theartnewspaper.com

... with a bit of backstory here

How a tribute to 'victims of communism' became Canada's most controversial monument

A year after its unveiling was postponed indefinitely, concerns about Ottawa’s Memorial to the Victims of Communism remain

www.theartnewspaper.com

Nazi collaborator’s name found on Victims of Communism monument

Canadian Heritage engraved the nameplates before deciding who to commemorate

ricochet.media

 

[The Bread Guy]

Bumped with something relevant ....

Following controversy, all names will be left off Canadian monument to ‘victims of communism’

More than half the names originally planned to be inscribed on the Ottawa monument have been linked to Nazis

www.theartnewspaper.com

... with a bit of backstory here

How a tribute to 'victims of communism' became Canada's most controversial monument

A year after its unveiling was postponed indefinitely, concerns about Ottawa’s Memorial to the Victims of Communism remain

www.theartnewspaper.com

Nazi collaborator’s name found on Victims of Communism monument

Canadian Heritage engraved the nameplates before deciding who to commemorate

ricochet.media

Necrothread "I'm not dead yet" bump with the latest round up from hard-left-wing/neo-Marxist media on that monument.

Ottawa Has Stuck By the Charity Behind the Nazi Gaffe

Canada’s Victims of Communism monument included proposed honorees from the Waffen-SS, the Ustaša, and the Ukrainian Insurgent Army. The charity that supplied the names is still helping shape the memorial’s next phase.

jacobin.com

Latest from the organizers (full April 2026 newsletter attached): "Our latest update comes directly from the Government of Canada: “Canadian Heritage is continuing to make steadyprogress toward the completion of the Memorial. The Monuments team has recently reengaged the design team andconfirmed that Paul Raff and his studio are interested in supporting the project through to completion. Concurrently,the Monuments team is collaborating with the National Capital Commission to advance work on the West side of thewall; specifically, the fabrication of the dedication and artistic interpretation plaques, for which the text has been finalized and approved.Planning is also progressing for the East side of the wall, where analysis of potential thematic approaches is currentlyunderway. This stage is focused on carefully considering the appropriate scope and approach for the content, recognizing the importance of getting this element right before returning to TTL with a concrete proposal. PCH expects to be ina position to provide a more substantive update on overall progress to TTL by early summer, and we look forward tosharing further details at that time.” "

 

[daftandbarmy]

Necrothread "I'm not dead yet" bump with the latest round up from hard-left-wing/neo-Marxist media on that monument.

Ottawa Has Stuck By the Charity Behind the Nazi Gaffe

Canada’s Victims of Communism monument included proposed honorees from the Waffen-SS, the Ustaša, and the Ukrainian Insurgent Army. The charity that supplied the names is still helping shape the memorial’s next phase.

jacobin.com

Latest from the organizers (full April 2026 newsletter attached): "Our latest update comes directly from the Government of Canada: “Canadian Heritage is continuing to make steadyprogress toward the completion of the Memorial. The Monuments team has recently reengaged the design team andconfirmed that Paul Raff and his studio are interested in supporting the project through to completion. Concurrently,the Monuments team is collaborating with the National Capital Commission to advance work on the West side of thewall; specifically, the fabrication of the dedication and artistic interpretation plaques, for which the text has been finalized and approved.Planning is also progressing for the East side of the wall, where analysis of potential thematic approaches is currentlyunderway. This stage is focused on carefully considering the appropriate scope and approach for the content, recognizing the importance of getting this element right before returning to TTL with a concrete proposal. PCH expects to be ina position to provide a more substantive update on overall progress to TTL by early summer, and we look forward tosharing further details at that time.” "

I'm no Communist apologist, but still think this is a dumb idea...

 

[The Bread Guy]

I'm no Communist apologist, but still think this is a dumb idea...

I don’t know - a lotta memes out there show how many more folks Team Lenin/Stalin/Pol Pot/Mao has killed compared to even Team Hitler & Co.

The usual delicate balance of history from those parts of the world.

 

[OldSolduer]

I don’t know - a lotta memes out there show how many more folks Team Lenin/Stalin/Pol Pot/Mao has killed compared to even Team Hitler & Co.

The usual delicate balance of history from those parts of the world.

Stalin- the Holodomor (I hope I spelled that correctly) and the purges.
Mao - the Cultural Revolution
Pol Pot - the Killing Fields

Even Fidel wasn’t immune to mass imprisonment and executions

 

[The Bread Guy]

Stalin- the Holodomor (I hope I spelled that correctly) and the purges.
Mao - the Cultural Revolution
Pol Pot - the Killing Fields

Even Fidel wasn’t immune to mass imprisonment and executions

Another one of those historical anomalies, though -- Mao and Stalin help fight the same bad guys as we had in the last world war.

 

[Fishbone Jones]

Another one of those historical anomalies, though -- Mao and Stalin help fight the same bad guys as we had in the last world war.

The enemy of my enemy is my friend.

 

[The Bread Guy]

The enemy of my enemy is my friend - for now, anyway.

The Kurds wanted that bit in yellow added