Shipyards to get $1.45-billion deal

[Sub_Guy]

When I read this news article I was completely surprised, especially since Irving had BAE on their side.  It is nice to see some major Navy contracts coming to the west coast.  I wonder if this will affect the decision on where to build the JSS, I am partial to the WMG bid.

Of course those out east aren't happy......  Irving has dropped the ball on the JSS, and now this..........  I guess they can still hold on to the FELEX program.....

 

[geo]

Hmmm... small question here..........
If the Chicoutimi is "on blocks" in Halifax and the shipyard that will fix and maintain the Victorias is in BC....... how are we going to get the beast from here to there?

 

[aesop081]

Hmmm... small question here..........
If the Chicoutimi is "on blocks" in Halifax and the shipyard that will fix and maintain the Victorias is in BC....... how are we going to get the beast from here to there?

The same way we got her from Scottland to Halifax  ;D

 

[Ex-Dragoon]

Hey as long as the shipyard does good work and is cost effective and does not try and stiff the government (like Irving) I don't care where the job gets done.

 

[geo]

Hmmm....
They tried to sail her from the UK to Halifax
then they had a fire
Then they towed her back to the UK and buldled her up on a floating drydock and shipped her to Halifax.....
Which means that by the time we ship her to Victoria the boat will have traveled further out of the water than she ever has, in the water.

 

[Ex-Dragoon]

Actually it was a heavy lift ship

 

[Sub_Guy]

So if we have three subs in Halifax and one in Victoria, is there some navy/union/voting block logic that escapes me for setting up the maintenance shop in Victoria?

Original plan is/was to have 2/2 split on each coast....

Which means that by the time we ship her to Victoria the boat will have traveled further out of the water than she ever has, in the water.

I seriously doubt it, it isn't like the Chi was sitting out of water then thrown in to sail across... There were some serious sea trials before she was cleared to make the voyage......It spent plenty of time at sea before the attempt to cross.. 
I am glad Irving is not going to be touching our boats (for at least 15 years)

 

[CrazyCanuck]

If there's going to be two on each coast (eventually) then why is she complaining about the cost? Won't it be the same either way?

 

[aesop081]

If there's going to be two on each coast (eventually) then why is she complaining about the cost? Won't it be the same either way?

Because she is the oposition and has no clue what she is talking about.........are you surprised ?

 

[NCRCrow]

Sub standard work...(like the play on words) LOL

 

[Neill McKay]

There's also the possibility of the east coast work being subcontracted to an east coast shipyard.

 

[Journeyman]

There's also the possibility of the east coast work being subcontracted to an east coast shipyard.

"Possiblity." Is this based on something you've read/heard that hasn't been brought up here, or idle speculation?

Edit: Just curiousity, not a slam.

 

[Neill McKay]

"Possiblity." Is this based on something you've read/heard that hasn't been brought up here, or idle speculation?

Edit: Just curiousity, not a slam.

No, I haven't heard anything to indicate that this will happen in this case.  But in large contracts for services it's not unusual for a consortium of companies to bid on the project.  Having XYZ Shipyard as the name on the letterhead doesn't necessarily mean that all of the work will be done in XYZ Shipyard's own facilities.  XYZ Shipyard could simply be the lead in a team of companies (including shipyards, project management companies, financing companies, etc.) bidding on the project collectively.

 

[geo]

Ayup,
When Irving had the frigate program, some work went to Davie Shipyards & I think some ontario / great lake shipyard

 

[Journeyman]

Ack. Thanks.

 

[Sub_Guy]

Weren't the first batch of 6 ships split between Irving and Davie, when the second contract for an additional 6 went out it was awarded to Irving?

 

[Ex-Dragoon]

9 of the frigates were built in St John the other 3 were built in Quebec.

 

[Sub_Guy]

True, I was just looking for confirmation as to how the contracts were worked out.
I had thought there was a contract for 6 (3 Saint John, Irving  3 Quebec)  Then an additional contract for another 6 was awarded to Irving.

Off to google I go...

 

[Colin Parkinson]

When the CCG contracted one of the big East Coast shipyards to build our new 47’ SAR Cutters, they sub-contracted it to a small yard in Kingston, Ontario. They had never built a aluminum vessel before or anything of similar size, they totally botched it and the CCG had to yank the contract and give the remaining vessels to a west coast yard that builds aluminum vessels. A similar event happened with our 41' cutters and 70' cutters back in the earlier 80's.  

 

[Sub_Guy]

Found the info on the CPF contracts I was looking for.    Now to get back on track.  Sorry to get off topic

The Project involved two phases: the first, approved by TB in
1983, authorized the construction of six Frigates to replace the St. Laurent class of
destroyer - for a project cost of $5.435B - with the last ship to be delivered in 1992; the
second, approved in December 1987, authorized the construction of six more Frigates and
additional funding of $4.982B. The last ship was contracted to be delivered in 1996.

The contract to build six new Frigates was awarded to the prime contractor in
July l983. The design and integration of the Frigates’ combat and control systems was
subcontracted to a new Canadian firm. In addition, a subcontract was awarded to build
three of the first six Frigates. The CPF contract was subsequently amended in 1987
to include the construction of an additional six Frigates - all built by the prime contractor
- for a total of 12.