Sikh & India (Alleged) Shenanigans in Canada (split fm Non-Muslim terr thread)

[The Bread Guy]

BC Preem wants a gang accused of helping the IND government squeeze their own folks here declared a terrorist group ...

British Columbia Premier urges terrorist label for Lawrence Bishnoi Gang

British Columbia Premier David Eby has urged Canadian Prime Minister Mark Carney to designate the India-based Lawrence Bishnoi gang as a terrorist organisation, citing its growing role in extortion, shootings, and arsons targeting South Asian communities in BC, Alberta and other areas.

www.indiatoday.in

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A bit more on the "why" ...

Police intelligence behind B.C. call for Bishnoi gang's terror listing: minister

British Columbia's public safety minister said police intelligence had linked many cases of extortion against the South Asian community to India's Lawrence Bishnoi gang, giving the government confidence to recently

www.thecanadianpressnews.ca

Also archived here https://archive.is/aSCPG

 

[brihard]

A bit more on the "why" ...

Police intelligence behind B.C. call for Bishnoi gang's terror listing: minister

British Columbia's public safety minister said police intelligence had linked many cases of extortion against the South Asian community to India's Lawrence Bishnoi gang, giving the government confidence to recently

www.thecanadianpressnews.ca

Also archived here https://archive.is/aSCPG

It’s an interesting request… To get a terrorist entity listing under the Criminal Code, it would need to be demonstrated that the Bishnoi gang has participated in “terrorist activity”, also as defined in the Criminal Code. That requires at least in part a political, ideological, or religious motivation. I’m not very up to speed on the Bishnoi gang so I can’t say with any real level of knowledge if that’s there or not. Given how the ‘terrorist entity’ definition was recently stretched just a tad to list some of the cartels, I’m not surprised to read now of political pressure to list particularly problematic gangs.

Maybe we should create a formal listing system for Criminal Organizations the same way we do for terrorist entities. Right now Crim Orgs have to be proven case by case; we can’t just list, say Hell’s Angels, Outlaws, and Banditos as a standing listing. Crown consequently will shy away sometimes from pursuing Crim Org charges (and sentencing!) because it adds further complication to a case. An established criminal organization listing process would be pretty beneficial to law enforcement, prosecution, and criminal intelligence organizations. It could also take some pressure off trying to force square pegs into round holes vis a vis terrorist entity listings.

 

[RangerRay]

I remember at the time the government first announced they were going to declare the Proud Boys a terrorist organizations. I thought at the time it was a huge stretch. Street thugs and petty criminals, sure. But my mind changed with January 6, 2021.

I can see some benefits to being able to declare some organizations as “criminal organizations” in much the same way we can declare some organizations as terrorist.

 

[RangerRay]

A rager from Terry Glavin on the Air India bombing, how everyone dropped the ball, how extremists openly celebrate it on Canadian streets, how our politicians play footsie with these extremists, and how no one here then and today gives a shit.

Terry Glavin: Air India terrorist attack was Canada's worst failure in history

Ottawa ignored intelligence and bungled the investigation and prosecution

nationalpost.com

Sorry, it’s behind a paywall. I can view on the app. I really need to copy that link to get around the paywall.

 

[The Bread Guy]

A rager from Terry Glavin on the Air India bombing, how everyone dropped the ball, how extremists openly celebrate it on Canadian streets, how our politicians play footsie with these extremists, and how no one here then and today gives a shit.

Terry Glavin: Air India terrorist attack was Canada's worst failure in history

Ottawa ignored intelligence and bungled the investigation and prosecution

nationalpost.com

Sorry, it’s behind a paywall. I can view on the app. I really need to copy that link to get around the paywall.

Say no more, dude

https://archive.is/fMOQ8

 

[brihard]

A rager from Terry Glavin on the Air India bombing, how everyone dropped the ball, how extremists openly celebrate it on Canadian streets, how our politicians play footsie with these extremists, and how no one here then and today gives a shit.

Terry Glavin: Air India terrorist attack was Canada's worst failure in history

Ottawa ignored intelligence and bungled the investigation and prosecution

nationalpost.com

Sorry, it’s behind a paywall. I can view on the app. I really need to copy that link to get around the paywall.

I was fortunate to get to sit in on a really good presentation about the bombing a while back, from a surviving family of a victim who now works in the national security space. No punches were pulled in looking at the failures that led to the attack happening.

While there remain major challenges in being able to use intelligence information to prosecute in court, the communication between domestic and foreign intelligence and Canadian police has improved considerably, at least to the extent of being able to act on actionable intelligence to disrupt or stop an imminent threat. The protection of sources and methods is no longer a complete blind to any and all police work, and it’s recognized that a prosecution isn’t always going to be the gold standard if there’s an imminent threat. In that respect, at least, Canada has seen much more success since in detecting and disrupting things like, for instance, the Toronto 18 or the Via Rail plot. Obviously 9/11 was a huge factor in this.

I think Air India happened during a perfect storm of the split of CSIS from the RCMP
Security Service, and a policing profession that was very early in wrapping its head around the Charter.

 

[The Bread Guy]

A bit of support from the mayor of Brampton, someone not unfamiliar with Indian interference shenanigans ....

Brampton mayor 'cautiously optimistic' about Bishnoi gang terrorist designation

OTTAWA - Brampton Mayor Patrick Brown said Friday he's "cautiously optimistic" about the chances of naming India's Lawrence Bishnoi gang as a terrorist group after meeting with Public Safety Minister

www.thecanadianpressnews.ca

BC Preem wants a gang accused of helping the IND government squeeze their own folks here declared a terrorist group ...

British Columbia Premier urges terrorist label for Lawrence Bishnoi Gang

British Columbia Premier David Eby has urged Canadian Prime Minister Mark Carney to designate the India-based Lawrence Bishnoi gang as a terrorist organisation, citing its growing role in extortion, shootings, and arsons targeting South Asian communities in BC, Alberta and other areas.

www.indiatoday.in

Extortion-linked gang should be declared terrorist organization, B.C. premier says

A gang that has “self-identified” as being involved in extortion threats targeting South Asian businesses in Canada should be declared a terrorist organization, B.C.’s premier said Tuesday.

www.ctvnews.ca

Eby to ask PM to declare India's Bishnoi gang a terrorist group, amid extortion fears

British Columbia Premier David Eby says he wants a gang based in India declared a terrorist organization in Canada.

www.thecanadianpressnews.ca

Bit of backstory on the dude in charge ...

Lawrence Bishnoi - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

... and some older MSM for background ...

Who is Lawrence Bishnoi, the gangster at the centre of India-Canada spat?

Canadian officials this week said Bishnoi’s gang was targeting Sikh dissidents at the behest of the Indian government.

www.aljazeera.com

... as well as some older IND media coverage poo-pooing buddy's (alleged) criminality (they SAY he's helping the IND gov't, but he's really a separatist, ya know)

The myth of Lawrence Bishnoi: Why Canadian police is wrong

Lawrence Bishnoi, prominent gangster with nationalist credentials, has international ties and alleged Khalistani links. Canadian police accuse his gang of partnering with Indian agents for covert operations, ignoring Bishnois extensive criminal network and connections with banned terror outfits...

economictimes.indiatimes.com

The latest joining the call: Team Blue Ottawa Franchise ....

Poilievre calls on federal government to classify Bishnoi gang as terror entity

SURREY - Conservative Leader Pierre Poilievre is the latest politician calling for the federal government to designate the India-based Lawrence Bishnoi gang as a terrorist entity.

www.thecanadianpressnews.ca

Conservatives Call On Government To Designate The Bishnoi Gang A Terrorist Entity - Conservative Party of Canada

Ottawa, ON – Frank Caputo, Conservative Shadow Minister for Public Safety, wrote the following letter to Canada’s Minister of Public Safety: “Dear Minister Anandasangaree, “I write to you in my capacity as the Conservative Shadow Minister for Public Safety to request that the Lawrence Bishnoi...

www.conservative.ca

 

[The Bread Guy]

The latest joining the call: Team Blue Ottawa Franchise ....

Poilievre calls on federal government to classify Bishnoi gang as terror entity

SURREY - Conservative Leader Pierre Poilievre is the latest politician calling for the federal government to designate the India-based Lawrence Bishnoi gang as a terrorist entity.

www.thecanadianpressnews.ca

Conservatives Call On Government To Designate The Bishnoi Gang A Terrorist Entity - Conservative Party of Canada

Ottawa, ON – Frank Caputo, Conservative Shadow Minister for Public Safety, wrote the following letter to Canada’s Minister of Public Safety: “Dear Minister Anandasangaree, “I write to you in my capacity as the Conservative Shadow Minister for Public Safety to request that the Lawrence Bishnoi...

www.conservative.ca

A bit more on the "why" ...

Police intelligence behind B.C. call for Bishnoi gang's terror listing: minister

British Columbia's public safety minister said police intelligence had linked many cases of extortion against the South Asian community to India's Lawrence Bishnoi gang, giving the government confidence to recently

www.thecanadianpressnews.ca

Also archived here https://archive.is/aSCPG

The latest 5W's on the Bishnoi Gang ....

What is the Bishnoi gang and why do some want it labelled a terrorist group?

OTTAWA - Politicians on both sides of the aisle have been calling on Ottawa to designate a gang tied to India as a terrorist organization.

www.thecanadianpressnews.ca

... with this bit on the politics:

... Carleton University political scientist Jonathan Malloy said Canadian political parties have tried to walk a fine line on relations with India in order to gain support from both Sikh and Hindu voters while sidestepping tensions between those groups. He said Canada's "complicated relationship with India" stems in part from politicians' efforts to strike that balance, through comments or policies that have upset New Delhi. "There are a lot of calculations going on in the political parties," he said. "They're related very much to how to frame these issues for domestic, political considerations." The federal Tories, he said, have avoided weighing in on how best to relate with India — a country Canada has flagged as both a key economic partner and a major source of foreign interference and transnational repression. Navigating those relations has been particularly tricky since the 2023 assassination of Khalistan activist Hardeep Singh Nijjar near Vancouver. Ottawa has linked his death to the Indian government. "The Conservatives are trying to frame this as a security issue, which plays to their emphasis on law and order," Malloy said ...

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