Sikh & India (Alleged) Shenanigans in Canada (split fm Non-Muslim terr thread)

[The Bread Guy]

BC Preem wants a gang accused of helping the IND government squeeze their own folks here declared a terrorist group ...

British Columbia Premier urges terrorist label for Lawrence Bishnoi Gang

British Columbia Premier David Eby has urged Canadian Prime Minister Mark Carney to designate the India-based Lawrence Bishnoi gang as a terrorist organisation, citing its growing role in extortion, shootings, and arsons targeting South Asian communities in BC, Alberta and other areas.

www.indiatoday.in

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A bit more on the "why" ...

Police intelligence behind B.C. call for Bishnoi gang's terror listing: minister

British Columbia's public safety minister said police intelligence had linked many cases of extortion against the South Asian community to India's Lawrence Bishnoi gang, giving the government confidence to recently

www.thecanadianpressnews.ca

Also archived here https://archive.is/aSCPG

 

[brihard]

A bit more on the "why" ...

Police intelligence behind B.C. call for Bishnoi gang's terror listing: minister

British Columbia's public safety minister said police intelligence had linked many cases of extortion against the South Asian community to India's Lawrence Bishnoi gang, giving the government confidence to recently

www.thecanadianpressnews.ca

Also archived here https://archive.is/aSCPG

It’s an interesting request… To get a terrorist entity listing under the Criminal Code, it would need to be demonstrated that the Bishnoi gang has participated in “terrorist activity”, also as defined in the Criminal Code. That requires at least in part a political, ideological, or religious motivation. I’m not very up to speed on the Bishnoi gang so I can’t say with any real level of knowledge if that’s there or not. Given how the ‘terrorist entity’ definition was recently stretched just a tad to list some of the cartels, I’m not surprised to read now of political pressure to list particularly problematic gangs.

Maybe we should create a formal listing system for Criminal Organizations the same way we do for terrorist entities. Right now Crim Orgs have to be proven case by case; we can’t just list, say Hell’s Angels, Outlaws, and Banditos as a standing listing. Crown consequently will shy away sometimes from pursuing Crim Org charges (and sentencing!) because it adds further complication to a case. An established criminal organization listing process would be pretty beneficial to law enforcement, prosecution, and criminal intelligence organizations. It could also take some pressure off trying to force square pegs into round holes vis a vis terrorist entity listings.

 

[RangerRay]

I remember at the time the government first announced they were going to declare the Proud Boys a terrorist organizations. I thought at the time it was a huge stretch. Street thugs and petty criminals, sure. But my mind changed with January 6, 2021.

I can see some benefits to being able to declare some organizations as “criminal organizations” in much the same way we can declare some organizations as terrorist.

 

[RangerRay]

A rager from Terry Glavin on the Air India bombing, how everyone dropped the ball, how extremists openly celebrate it on Canadian streets, how our politicians play footsie with these extremists, and how no one here then and today gives a shit.

Terry Glavin: Air India terrorist attack was Canada's worst failure in history

Ottawa ignored intelligence and bungled the investigation and prosecution

nationalpost.com

Sorry, it’s behind a paywall. I can view on the app. I really need to copy that link to get around the paywall.

 

[The Bread Guy]

A rager from Terry Glavin on the Air India bombing, how everyone dropped the ball, how extremists openly celebrate it on Canadian streets, how our politicians play footsie with these extremists, and how no one here then and today gives a shit.

Terry Glavin: Air India terrorist attack was Canada's worst failure in history

Ottawa ignored intelligence and bungled the investigation and prosecution

nationalpost.com

Sorry, it’s behind a paywall. I can view on the app. I really need to copy that link to get around the paywall.

Say no more, dude

https://archive.is/fMOQ8

 

[brihard]

A rager from Terry Glavin on the Air India bombing, how everyone dropped the ball, how extremists openly celebrate it on Canadian streets, how our politicians play footsie with these extremists, and how no one here then and today gives a shit.

Terry Glavin: Air India terrorist attack was Canada's worst failure in history

Ottawa ignored intelligence and bungled the investigation and prosecution

nationalpost.com

Sorry, it’s behind a paywall. I can view on the app. I really need to copy that link to get around the paywall.

I was fortunate to get to sit in on a really good presentation about the bombing a while back, from a surviving family of a victim who now works in the national security space. No punches were pulled in looking at the failures that led to the attack happening.

While there remain major challenges in being able to use intelligence information to prosecute in court, the communication between domestic and foreign intelligence and Canadian police has improved considerably, at least to the extent of being able to act on actionable intelligence to disrupt or stop an imminent threat. The protection of sources and methods is no longer a complete blind to any and all police work, and it’s recognized that a prosecution isn’t always going to be the gold standard if there’s an imminent threat. In that respect, at least, Canada has seen much more success since in detecting and disrupting things like, for instance, the Toronto 18 or the Via Rail plot. Obviously 9/11 was a huge factor in this.

I think Air India happened during a perfect storm of the split of CSIS from the RCMP
Security Service, and a policing profession that was very early in wrapping its head around the Charter.