Soldier Qualification Location

[Gelan]

You‘ll think twice about SISP, when you get injured and cannot work

I completely understand the need for SISIP, but if you actually participated in the "class" I was in, you would be appalled at the waste of time it was. they actually made us throw paper airplanes around the room. Excuse me, I did not join the army to throw paper airplanes around a classroom.

You are one of the lil D#$% Heads that think they know it all. Yes basic is gone down, but it because other D#$% Heads complained it was too hard.

That‘s too bad you have that impression of me. Honestly, I‘m aware of my complete lack of knowledge in this aspect of life, and that‘s why I‘m in training. I have not, nor will ever claim to "know it all." I added to this thread my opinion of the course at St. Jean along with my experience on the SQ course.

As for SQ training I have a Fellow Sgt in the Recce Cell there, so smarten up.

No disrespect is meant, but why are you telling me to smarten up? You have only one post on the internet to base your opinion on my character. If you want, ask my Sect Comd(Sgt. Bruce C.I.), or other staff on my course for an opinion of me. THEN you might have something reasonable to base such a comment on.

 

[bomber12]

Instead of making a new topic I well revive this thread.

I read somewhere on this forum that SQ was now part of BMQ. Is this at all true? I cant remember what topic this came up in but I read something about this.

 

[dangerboy]

SQ is not part of BMQ, for Infantry Soldiers it is part of there Infantry course but for everyone else it is a separate course. There is currently a SQ running right now in Wainwright with one more due to start in 3 weeks (if they can get the instructors).

 

[bomber12]

oh ok. So infantry qualifaction and soldier qualifaction are the put into the same course? I will figure it all out once I get into it. Wasnt BMQ a 10 week course or something like that and its now a 13 week course?

 

[Kevin_M]

It's called BMQ (Land) now. Everyone calls it SQ still though.

I am currently doing PRes course now. They took of the Carl G (disappointing, hopefully I'll get to use one eventually). Now have M72's instead.

 

[dangerboy]

It's called BMQ (Land) now. Everyone calls it SQ still though.

I am currently doing PRes course now. They took of the Carl G (disappointing, hopefully I'll get to use one eventually). Now have M72's instead.

The army officially calls it ARMY NCM DP 1 – SOLDIER QUALIFICATION , just for your info there is also slight differences in the training plan for the regular force and the reserve one. 

 

[MedTechStudent]

Your SQ is integrated right in with your DP1 Infantry course.  You do it prior to your official battle school.  The SQ I did consisted of all support trades.  It was 4 weeks for me.

PPCLI so you will probably be at Wainwright Alberta, HOWEVER, 6 of the infantry guys on the DP1 course that I shared the floor with in Gagetown were PPCLI and they were still sent there for their DP1.  So no way to know for sure.

No SQ is not part of BMQ as far as I know, I just did it three weeks ago.

Cheers, Kyle


Edited To Add ...bomber12, BMQ is 13 weeks now, they occasionally rumor about taking out the field portion of it which would shorten the course to 10 weeks....I don't see that happening, I think those three weeks in the field are invaluable and for some, they are the only time they will be in those conditions....however, I am a lowly Private and its way above my pay grade...and to quote Angels In The Outfield, "It could happen..."

 

[Snaketnk]

I think I may be confused here.

Some people seem to referring to DP1 as SQ, or DP1 as the old BIQ. Is there some kind of inconsistency in the nomenclature between Reg Force and PRes? In the Reg Force (In the Combat Arms, at least), DP1 is the course that makes you trade qualified. All Combat arms with the exception of Infantry do an SQ prior to doing their DP1. For Infantry, the content of the SQ course is integrated in the DP1 Course.

Having gone through Battleschool last year, and knowing people that just finished battleschool, I feel my info is the most recent right now.

Also, MedTechStudent, the SQ course is NOT done prior to your official battleschool course. The content of the course is spread out throughtout the course (weapons at the start, defensive positions near the end, patrolling/signalling/tactics throughout). As for those prospective PPCLIs you met in Gagetown, they are NOT there for their SQ; they are now running Reg Force Infantry DP1s in Gagetown.

As for which Training Centre you'll go to; They usually send you to the one affiliated with the Regiment you've chosen to join, but now that the Training Centres are no longer Regimental BattleSchools (they're no longer affiliated with a specific regiment, you'll get the occasional PPCLI/Vandoo go through Meaford/Gagetown and the Occasional Royal through Wainwright.

BMQ is 13 weeks (14 if you count week 0 - admin)
SQ is 4 weeks (Weapons+Field)
Infantry DP1 is 14 weeks (7-10 weeks in the field with the new TP, depending on Course Staff)

 

[MedTechStudent]

Yes, thats right.  My mistake.  It was only after that I realized it was some of my mates in the Artillery that had just completed their SQ before starting their trade course.  They said they had the same staff for both, it was just technically two separate courses one directly after the other.

Cheers, Kyle.

Speaking of that DP1 Course, their grad is something like 10 days away so if any are around.  Good on ya boys!

 

[Fusaki]

Some people seem to referring to DP1 as SQ, or DP1 as the old BIQ. Is there some kind of inconsistency in the nomenclature between Reg Force and PRes? In the Reg Force (In the Combat Arms, at least), DP1 is the course that makes you trade qualified. All Combat arms with the exception of Infantry do an SQ prior to doing their DP1. For Infantry, the content of the SQ course is integrated in the DP1 Course.

Having gone through Battleschool last year, and knowing people that just finished battleschool, I feel my info is the most recent right now.

Also, MedTechStudent, the SQ course is NOT done prior to your official battleschool course. The content of the course is spread out throughtout the course (weapons at the start, defensive positions near the end, patrolling/signalling/tactics throughout). As for those prospective PPCLIs you met in Gagetown, they are NOT there for their SQ; they are now running Reg Force Infantry DP1s in Gagetown.

I think the confusion arises because just a few years ago infantry guys actually did do SQ.  In 2003 I did a 6 week SQ and a 10 week BIQ.

-If I understand it correctly, up untill 1996 the RCR Battleschool qualified guys on a 16 week course between basic training and being posted to Battalion.

-From 1996 up untill 2001 or 2002 the course name changed to QL3, which was also a 16 week course.

-After that it became 6 weeks of SQ and then 10 weeks of BIQ, which - at least when I went through - was still referred to unofficially as "Battleschool".  At some times I've heard the word Battleschool refer to both SQ and BIQ combined, other times the word only meant BIQ.  The reality of the situation is that both courses were run one right after another, with the same candidates and the same course staff.  The first 3 weeks of SQ was the cock phase where we got rid of the weak ones, then later on in BIQ the staff shifted to more of a mentoring approach.  For all intents and purposes, SQ+BIQ was actually one 16 week course.

-Then sometime over the past few years infantry guys stopped doing SQ and BIQ and started doing DP1.