Step test vo2 calculations

[rikkivictoria]

Anyone here ever done the step test in ieu of the 20 metre msr?

I have a question regarding the calculations for vo2 max - do they use decimals on your calculations or do they round up/down to whole numbers? Important as they have NOT been consistent and thus, I failed. If they used the same protocol as last time, I would ahve passed. I NEED to know what the correct calucaltions are please!!!

Please advise! Thanks so much!!!

 

[Meridian]

Anyone here ever done the step test in ieu of the 20 metre msr?

I have a question regarding the calculations for vo2 max - do they use decimals on your calculations or do they round up/down to whole numbers? Important as they have NOT been consistent and thus, I failed. If they used the same protocol as last time, I would ahve passed. I NEED to know what the correct calucaltions are please!!!

Please advise! Thanks so much!!!

I don't know the answer, but as the step test is the minimum standard for Reserve entry (from what I've read), why wouldn't you just work to exceed the minimum by BOTH methods?

 

[George Wallace]

It is now the Beep Test.

 

[Roy Harding]

Anyone here ever done the step test in ieu of the 20 metre msr?

I have a question regarding the calculations for vo2 max - do they use decimals on your calculations or do they round up/down to whole numbers? Important as they have NOT been consistent and thus, I failed. If they used the same protocol as last time, I would ahve passed. I NEED to know what the correct calucaltions are please!!!

Please advise! Thanks so much!!!

You're kidding me.  A decimal place on the vo2 max is stopping you from joining the CF??  And you're crying about it?  Because it isn't fair?

 

[Meridian]

It is now the Beep Test.

My bad George; I though the Reserve candidates were still doing the old Fitness Test before enrollment.

 

[geo]

one thing,
if you are only "slightly" overweight, even if you fly thru the step test with flying colours, you will fail the step test.
And that goes for the musclebound types who pump a lot of iron.

Bin there, done that...

 

[rikkivictoria]

You're kidding me.  A decimal place on the vo2 max is stopping you from joining the CF??  And you're crying about it?  Because it isn't fair?

I hope you're not being sarcastic - because yes, I WAS saying that.

 

[Roy Harding]

I hope you're not being sarcastic - because yes, I WAS saying that.

Of course I was being sarcastic.  Your post invited it.

There is a standard (as low as it might be) for physical fitness in the CF.  If you can't meet that standard, stop whining about how the calculations are done, and train to actually MEET that standard.

Keep in mind that the standard you failed to meet is a MINIMAL standard - don't set your sights on the minimum - aim MUCH higher, then you won't be concerned about how the decimal points are rounded.

 

[geo]

+1 Roy

 

[rikkivictoria]

Of course I was being sarcastic.  Your post invited it.

There is a standard (as low as it might be) for physical fitness in the CF.  If you can't meet that standard, stop whining about how the calculations are done, and train to actually MEET that standard.

Keep in mind that the standard you failed to meet is a MINIMAL standard - don't set your sights on the minimum - aim MUCH higher, then you won't be concerned about how the decimal points are rounded.

Ahh, so you're telling me that it's okay for the PSP staff to use 2 different calculations to determine a set of values for the test? One month they do it one way an the next, they do it another? They have used two different ways of calculating - there's no standard. So, that's okay?

 

[aesop081]

I hope you're not being sarcastic - because yes, I WAS saying that.

If the method of rounding off is the only thing thats keeping you from passing the test, you have bigger problems.

Maybe instead of working out you fingers complaining about it here, you should be in a gym working out your cardio.....

and before you say it.......yes i am a jerk and what do i know

 

[PMedMoe]

Well, to get the info "straight from the horse's mouth" so to speak, why not contact PSP?

 

[Roy Harding]

Ahh, so you're telling me that it's okay for the PSP staff to use 2 different calculations to determine a set of values for the test? One month they do it one way an the next, they do it another? They have used two different ways of calculating - there's no standard. So, that's okay?

Nope.  I'm telling you to train to exceed the standard, and then you won't be worried about how the individual testers do the calculations.

Get off the keyboard and get into the gym, you won't solve your problem here - you MIGHT solve your problem in the gym, IFF you apply yourself. 

And make no mistake - it's YOUR problem, not the PSP Staff's - regardless how the calculations are done.

Look - I have no interest in baiting you into an argument, although I seem to have done a good job of it.  YOU want to be in the CF, which means that YOU have to meet the minimum (and in my opinion, abysmal) standard that organization demands.  YOU need to change, NOT the CF.  You're spending your time railing against the system, instead of getting into decent enough shape that the minimum standard is not a concern.  You're whining about how you're being held to a standard, arguing about how decimal places are rounded by different individuals. 

Stop wasting your time - get over it - start training.

 

[rikkivictoria]

Honestly, if this is the kind of "advice" you all have to offer then this whole board/forum is a waste of my time. I DO train 5 days a week - twice a week with a personal trainer. And I passed the test only to have hem do it again and use different calculations.

I was only trying to know what the standard was.

I'm not picking fights with anyone - I just wated to know if anyone had same experience as me. I won't ask any more questions of you.  I hope you don't treat your wives/girlfriends in the same sarcasic, demaening tone you ahve used on me. My husband and friends would never speak to me that way. Sorry to have bothered you all. I apologize for trying to gain some insight on other people's experiences, and will gracefully bow out of this site.

 

[Roy Harding]

Honestly, if this is the kind of "advice" you all have to offer then this whole board/forum is a waste of my time. I DO train 5 days a week - twice a week with a personal trainer. And I passed the test only to have hem do it again and use different calculations.

I was only trying to know what the standard was.

I'm not picking fights with anyone - I just wated to know if anyone had same experience as me. I won't ask any more questions of you.  I hope you don't treat your wives/girlfriends in the same sarcasic, demaening tone you ahve used on me. My husband and friends would never speak to me that way. Sorry to have bothered you all. I apologize for trying to gain some insight on other people's experiences, and will gracefully bow out of this site.

You missed the point.  (get your ass into the GYM and OFF the chair - you'll do alright, IFF you apply yourself and stop looking for loopholes.)

Good luck to you, no matter what you decide.

 

[rikkivictoria]

Dude, I am NOT looking for loopholes, I just wanted to know the correct procedure, okay? I;m not whining about being held to a standard - I get it and I know why standards (esp. for fitness) are in place. And like I said, I spend five days a week doing weights, core and cardio, so I have no idea why you think I need to "get off my ***"

 

[aesop081]

I DO train 5 days a week - twice a week with a personal trainer.

Get your money back

And I passed the test only to have hem do it again and use different calculations.

Like i said earlier, if all that is keeping you from passing a simple test like the step test, is rounding off a few decimals one way or the other, you have much bigger problems

 

[Roy Harding]

Dude, I am NOT looking for loopholes, I just wanted to know the correct procedure, okay? I;m not whining about being held to a standard - I get it and I know why standards (esp. for fitness) are in place. And like I said, I spend five days a week doing weights, core and cardio, so I have no idea why you think I need to "get off my ***"

That's MISTER "Dude" to you, dudette.

I'm done with you. 

If you think showing up at the gym five days a week and being "encouraged" regarding your fitness level is TRAINING - then you are sadly mistaken.  SHOWING UP at the gym doesn't count for much, what you actually DO once you get there gives you results.  I'd be asking some serious questions of my "personal trainer" regarding their qualifications/methods if I couldn't meet the MINIMAL standards of the CF after spending as much time as you claim to in the gym - your "personal trainer" isn't doing his/her job - he/she is blowing smoke up your ass while cashing your cheques.

Bottom line - YOU COULDN"T MEET THE MINIMUM STANDARD REQUIRED BY THE CF.  Train to do so - fire your "personal trainer" and actually DO something other than questioning the MINIMUM standard of the CF.

My sympathies to your husband.

 

[rikkivictoria]

I started with the trainer a month ago - so it's not like I have been doing it for months - why don't you get off your high horse and give me a break?

I will not address you as "mister" anything - who are you to tell me that?

Sympathies to my husband - gee, that hurt.

All I wanted to do was ask a question - why am I getting personally attacked for trying my best to work out and ask about a procedure that I thought some of you seasoned folks might know a bit more about? Please, just answer me that, and I will let it be - but just answer me that, please.

 

[Scott]

I see no good coming from this so it's Locked.

Well, to get the info "straight from the horse's mouth" so to speak, why not contact PSP?

Ole! The best advice you could get. Why did you choose to keep arguing/asking when you had your answer? We tell potential recruits all the time that the best people to ask questions of are the staff at the CFRC, it's no different here and yet you chose to ignore the advice.

Stop wasting your time - get over it - start training.

More advice, which you asked for, that is bang on. You were told, train to exceed the standard. Apparently that is a problem.

Honestly, if this is the kind of "advice" you all have to offer then this whole board/forum is a waste of my time. I DO train 5 days a week - twice a week with a personal trainer. And I passed the test only to have hem do it again and use different calculations.

I was only trying to know what the standard was.

I'm not picking fights with anyone - I just wated to know if anyone had same experience as me. I won't ask any more questions of you.  I hope you don't treat your wives/girlfriends in the same sarcasic, demaening tone you ahve used on me. My husband and friends would never speak to me that way. Sorry to have bothered you all. I apologize for trying to gain some insight on other people's experiences, and will gracefully bow out of this site.

Why are you whining that you were personally attacked when you started it all here?

Want to know what the standard is? CALL THE PSP STAFF as was already suggested but ignored.

All I wanted to do was ask a question - why am I getting personally attacked for trying my best to work out and ask about a procedure that I thought some of you seasoned folks might know a bit more about? Please, just answer me that, and I will let it be - but just answer me that, please.

You asked. It was answered. See my last.

In all honesty, what type of responses were you expecting? You came here stating that you failed because of a few decimals rounded off one way or the other. Standards can vary slightly. Whether its between different schools or between instructors at the same school. Now, I'm sure you know what the magic number for VO2 is in order to pass the step test. But instead of coming on here and complaining about a decimal here or a decimal there, you should be exceeding the minimum standard. Now that would be one way of making sure that you pass. You got the reaction that you did from members here, including myself, because we all know how lame and abysmal the standard is. To see you on here with your story is something most don't take much of a liking to.

Were you here before??

Usual caveats...

Scott
Army.ca Staff

Edited to clean up the thread with help from CDNAviator ;D