Subsidized Education - ROTP

[jwsteele]

I was recently sworn in for ROTP Civi U but I still have no idea how the financial end of things work.  I leave for IAP in two weeks and spend the rest of the summer there.  At some point my school will be sending info regarding fees and registration etc.  Do I have to come up with the $5000+ and pay the school and then get reimbursed or is this being handled and they just haven't told me about it?  How does the process of payment for tuition and books work?

 

[kincanucks]

I was recently sworn in for ROTP Civi U but I still have no idea how the financial end of things work.   I leave for IAP in two weeks and spend the rest of the summer there.   At some point my school will be sending info regarding fees and registration etc.   Do I have to come up with the $5000+ and pay the school and then get reimbursed or is this being handled and they just haven't told me about it?   How does the process of payment for tuition and books work?

Your University Liaison Officer (ULO) will assist you with aspect.  Their name should be on the ETP message that you were given during the signing of the enrollment paperwork before you were enrolled.  If you were not sure of what happens with regards to this aspect of your subsidization why did you leave the recruiting centre without knowing the answer?

 

[aesop081]

Kincanuck.....

* hands out a cup of earl gray*

 

[kincanucks]

Kincanuck.....

* hands out a cup of earl gray*

;D  What can I say?  I am what I am. Tea?

 

[tree hugger]

I was given a big ass check from my ULO.  I deposited it into my account, then paid for school.  And before you ask, yes you have to pay for the complete school year in one shot.

 

[beach_bum]

When you get sworn in, you fill out a ton of paperwork with a clerk (if not a couple of clerks), ask them any questions you have.  They will not bite you, think you are stupid for asking questions etc.  That is their job!  They have the answers, and if you do come up with one they don't have an answer to, they will find it.  This will make your life much easier.  You shouldn't be leaving with a pile of questions...you should be leaving that day with the anwers.  ;D

 

[Glorified Ape]

I was recently sworn in for ROTP Civi U but I still have no idea how the financial end of things work.   I leave for IAP in two weeks and spend the rest of the summer there.   At some point my school will be sending info regarding fees and registration etc.   Do I have to come up with the $5000+ and pay the school and then get reimbursed or is this being handled and they just haven't told me about it?   How does the process of payment for tuition and books work?

They'll give you the money first, then you pay tuition. You can pay your tuition yourself and then get the money from your ULO but you don't have to.

 

[Infanteer101]

What Glorified Ape said...

 

[vangemeren]

I have already completed 2 years of university out of my own pocket. What are the advantages/disadvantages of applying for ROTP Civy U now for the last 2 years of school. (and no, money in not a main reason for asking this question).

 

[denisottawa]

when should i apply for subsidize education. i am going into my third year in electrical engineering. I have an option to do two years at lakehead university or 3 semester at cape breton uni and then i would receive my degree in engineering. just wondering when i should apply and how long would i have to be in the military to complete my required service doing it this way.

thanks

 

[Glorified Ape]

I have already completed 2 years of university out of my own pocket. What are the advantages/disadvantages of applying for ROTP Civy U now for the last 2 years of school. (and no, money in not a main reason for asking this question).

The first reason is money, even if it's not a main reason. You'll be paid your salary, tuition, books, and materials, and PLD if you qualify for it. You'll owe them the minimum of time, which is 3 years. You'll get the benefits (medical/dental/etc). I only had 2 years left on my degree when I applied and I don't regret it. What it works out to is that you live like a civilian student 8-9 months out of the year but get paid a salary for going to school and don't have to pay any of the associated costs. The pay isn't a fortune, but it's more than civi students get paid to go to school (which is to say nothing). On top of that, you can work a part-time job while you're at school and in the forces, depending on whether your ULO authorizes it (which they usually do unless you've got bad grades).

The disadvantages are very slight. The most glaring one is that if you change your mind after you've been funded for a certain amount of time, you owe them everything back (that includes your salary, tuition, books, materials, PLD, etc.). If you stay in, you'll owe them 3 years, as I said.

when should i apply for subsidize education. i am going into my third year in electrical engineering. I have an option to do two years at lakehead university or 3 semester at cape breton uni and then i would receive my degree in engineering. just wondering when i should apply and how long would i have to be in the military to complete my required service doing it this way.

thanks

The minimum amount of time you're allowed to have left on your degree is 2 years (for ROTP civi U). I'm not sure what the regs are, but certain trades qualify for signing bonuses. If you qualify for a trade which entails a signing bonus, you may end up making more money by finishing your degree and THEN applying to the CF as a DEO... but I have no idea, aside from medical/dental/lawyer, which trades qualify for a bonus or how much it is. You should talk to the recruiting centre.

 

[kolkol]

Hello All,

I am currently in my first year at a university college here in Vancouver. I was wondering, is it possible to transfer into RMC after my first year of college (into ROTP). Further, will they look at just college marks, or high school as well (in addition to the usual volunteer, work stuff etc.)? Thanks for your input!

 

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[Perfect_Clark]

I've looked around and haven't found anything on this, there don't seem to be a lot of people like me. I'm in the application process for ROTP at a civilian University (Wilfrid Laurier), but I'm already in my 3rd year. Basically, the CF would only be funding my final year. Does anyone know whether that affects things, basically are they more leniant or stringent on handing out spots when I wouldn't be anywhere near the same timeline as those applying out of High School? I'm not really looking for false hope or anything because I know it's strict as it is, just wondering if it makes a lick of difference.

 

[Lumber]

There are a lot of people, many who have posted their stories here, who have gone through the ROTP program having applied while already enrolled in civi-U.

 

[mhawk]

It shouldn't be a problem, I have a few friends that did ROTP for their final year.  I myself got into ROTP after completing my second, although I'm doing a 5 year program.  Some things to consider are though, depending on your degree and trade choice, they're some joining incentives, for doctors, dentists and engineers.  But you really be talking with a recruiter.

 

[benny88]

Clark,

    I too know people who applied when already in university. Who knows, they might even prefer it, as the CF gets a trained officer faster.
    If I remember correctly, the CF won't just fund your final year, they will back pay you for your first three years as well.
    Also, are you applying through the CFRC detachment in Kitchener? The staff there is great! Good luck.

I'm doing a 5 year program. 

  No kidding, I thought you could only get four years of subsidization. If it's not too personal mhawk, what program at what school?

 

[mhawk]

I'm only getting subsidized for 3 years.  My program is Mechanical Engineering with the Aerospace Option at the U of Manitoba.  It takes 5 years to do the program.

 

[George Wallace]

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    If I remember correctly, the CF won't just fund your final year, they will back pay you for your first three years as well.
    Also, are you applying through the CFRC detachment in Kitchener? The staff there is great! Good luck.

If I remember correctly, that information is wrong.  There are different programs by which one can join the CF.  Only one is ROTP.  They are all different, with different requirements, different financial benefits and different Terms of Service.  For the correct information, follow benny88's advice to see the CFRC and find out which one you may fall into.  

 

[benny88]

    The CF will pay an OCdt back for schooling already obtained (but only if they approve the degree, I think,) but granted, just under ROTP. Apologies for not mentioning the other ones.