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Suicide Bombing

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Hi,

I'm trying to understand the thinking of islamic extremists and thought that this place would be the best place to ask.  When a suicide bomber kills himself, they're under the belief that if they kill a "non-believer" that they go to heaven?  Is this determined at the moment of their death?  Because if they blow themselves up, won't they be the first ones killed and arrive in heaven having not killed anyone yet? How does the islamic religion explain this? Thank you in advance.
 
I think you're over analyzing the situation. All you need to know is that they blow themselves up because of their beliefs, whether or not they get to heaven is their problem.


edit: typo
 
Here is an article that might shed some light on the subject. Bottom line I think these homicide bombers think its an automatic ticket to paradise.

http://www.jpost.com/servlet/Satellite?cid=1167467841193&pagename=JPost%2FJPArticle%2FShowFull
 
( also the assurances that the mullahs will look after their families )
 
Looking into the palistinian thing is dead interesting. Seems to be a very high incidence of single mothers blowing themselves up according to SBS documentary that was on a little while ago. The family is then looked after and a whole stack of cash is given from Hamas.
Its amazing, it really is. That people can come to the conclusion that killing others will get them into heaven says something about the world they live in and the respect that lack for other human beings.
 
It seems that I offended people on here.  That is the last thing I want to do.  I deeply respect everyone that currently is serving Canada here and abroad.  Please accept my apology.  My intentions are strictly trying to understand the enemy and why the do the things they do.

George Wallace:
I'm early 20's, Bachelor of Science, Infantry Reserves.
 
Ref Mr Wallace's Post above, if both sufficient try this link

<edit: sorry, your last post slid in under me: both seem sufficent  ;D>



I readily admit, based on source, that some readers may find this to be a biased source.To some readers, so what, post yer own source....

<edit again: biased not unbiased source ...my bad>
 
Greetings from a cool evening here in Baghdad.

Just remember Chris, they don't think like us. They're whole mentality and thoughts on life are so far out of our beliefs, thats its uncomprehendable, say to a day walking down Portage and Main. Not only is it the extreme side of this religion, the whole arab and middle eastern culture is by far different than our western menatlity. Even the moderates turn a blind eye to the violence. You gotta live it to see it.

Personally I find the whole way of life primitve, and it took a while to get to know who things work here. I tell ya, to here the smack of the concusion bouncing off the buildings, rumbling through your guts, from the huge car bombs. Or to see the orange wet fireballs, and the thick dark mushroom clouds form, then blow away slowly, then the secondary burn begins from structures on fire, and surrounding vehicles then catching. Thats just the tip of the iceberg, the rockets and mortars, wilth small arms fire, and snipers, thats another story in itself.

They use women and children as shields, and kill innocent people here daily, and I don't mean just a few. At times these bombers can take over 100 people with them, plus causing the most sickening injuries you could imagine.

They twist young impressionable minds around warped beliefs, both young men and women strapping a suicide vest on, or driving a car laden with say 500kg of HME or Arty/ mortar bombs, detonating it either by someone else from a distance or command detonated by themselves.

Not only do they hate the west, but they hate their own people who worship the same god (sunni vs shia). The hate here is deeper than space, and the mentality of killing for revenge is bread inot them from the age of a child.

I can I can say, its pretty sick, and thats why we must keep the fight on his shores rather then ours. Quite frankly Chris, I am at a loss of words over it all, but its a mess, a real mess, adn its only going to get worse, not only her ein Iraq, but in other islamic nations. The En has hardcore supporters even in Canada, and one day you'll here of a significant event closer to home than you think, and it won't be a SVBIED here either.

Don't take your safety for granted Chris. That can all disappear in a 10th of a second, when your life is changed forever.

Regards,

Wes
 
+1 Wes

Keep that noggin under kevlar & your butt down and close to the ground.

CHIMO!
 
Wesley - Thanks for the post.

I know we have to protect our way of life.  Thats part of the reason why I joined the reserves.
Instead of blindly killing the enemy, I want to understand where they're coming from and seeing their side of the story, but it seems harder than I thought to do that. Thanks again.

Chris
 
Chris your desire to understand the enemy is commendable. However,the jihadists are trying to advance their version of Islam at gunpoint. Not unlike the crusades to the holy land. To be a true believer of islam or even christianity requires faith because there is no scientific way to prove the existence of God.Christianity no longer exhorts believers to go out and force conversion. Islam though or at least the radical version hasnt abandoned there goal to advance their religion by military force. In that respect their religion remains locked in time. Their view of women as property clashes with the progress of women's rights in the west. Until islam goes through a modernization process we will continue to have both a clash of cultures but religion as well.
 
Christianity is 2000 years old
Islam is something like 1400 years old...

looking where Christianity was in 1400,  they're more or less on track with where "we" were.... infortunately, they are equipped with technology that's far beyond their means.
 
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