Brad Sallows
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"Death to the X" has been commonplace rhetoric for millennia. Neither it nor anything like it ought be criminalized.
How about burning down hotels, or river-to-sea statements, though?"Death to the X" has been commonplace rhetoric for millennia. Neither it nor anything like it ought be criminalized.
... I've started this by saying "right-wingers" because that's what is occupying the streets in the UK at this time. It seems only proper and fair that the same standards be applied to the left-wingers or religious zealots who make the same calls for violence on social media or even ones who deface works of historic art or impedes the right of way of the public on highways, railroads or public facilities. The rights of a society to function peacefully and undisturbed should be paramount ...
That bit in yellow seems to be the source of frustration in a lot of different issues/protests... A government that ignores one faction over another based on cultural, religious or racial grounds is failing its own society. The solution for such a government, or its security forces is to vote them out of office, not to take to the streets.
Start 'em young, and snack on a bag of crisps or Cheetos while your at it.Just a little segue - here are a few kids - and I mean kids - in Londonderry expressing their dissatisfaction with the government.
I don't think anyone is justified in resorting to violence or promoting violence - I also don't think the current UK government has any authority to criminalize quite legitimate criticism of itself.
Specificity is important. "Death to that guy there" is specific.How about burning down hotels, or river-to-sea statements, though?
A lot depends on context and, at least from what I understand in Canada, specificity, so that's why I'm worried about blanket criminalization. too.
That bit in yellow seems to be the source of frustration in a lot of different issues/protests
Couldn't agree more with everything you've said here.They aren't poor refugee families crossing into the UK fearing for their lives. They are mostly single men, aged 20-35. Islamic countries don’t have to fight wars against the west, they just need to replace the people there through mass invasion immigration. The UK of the 60s is gone. Poland seems to be the only country in Europe still able to maintain their culture and identity, you can only do that if you keep your borders secure.
Just a little segue - here are a few kids - and I mean kids - in Londonderry expressing their dissatisfaction with the government.
Parents can't come get them, might get arrested for their own outstanding warrants.And no, you're not allowed to shoot them.
But arrest them, and have their parents come down to the police station to pick them up, and they'll usually get a good hiding before they get home
This is why God made rubber bullets.And no, you're not allowed to shoot them.
The ones that do get a visit from the IRA that night to find out why they were seen at the police station though, which is why the kids get a good kickingParents can't come get them, might get arrested for their own outstanding warrants.
absolutely.More! More!
If you want to deter rioters the best way is to facilitate quick and effective contact with the criminal justice system
More than 1,000 arrested following UK riots, police say
British authorities have now arrested more than 1,000 people following days of rioting involving violence, arson and looting as well as racist attacks targeting Muslims and migrants, a national policing body said on Tuesday.
The riots, which followed the killings of three young girls in the northern English town of Southport, began after the July 29 attack was wrongly blamed on an Islamist migrant based on online misinformation.
Violence broke out in cities across England and also in Northern Ireland, but there have been fewer instances of unrest since last week after efforts to identify those involved were ramped up.
Many have been swiftly jailed, with some receiving long sentences
The National Police Chiefs' Council said in its latest update that 1,024 had been arrested and 575 charged across the UK.
Those arrested include a 69-year-old accused of vandalism in Liverpool.
That is very much the reality - despite some of the (disappointing) gloating on this site over people getting heavy prison sentences for saying (very) stupid things.I don't think it helps that people are getting arrested in the UK and those outside it threatened by the UK police for sharing posts while on the other side they are arming themselves, roaming the streets, attacking some people, rapes going unpunished, etc. When you are prosecuting everything that some citizens do while allowing others or immigrants to go unpunished it is going to lead to violence. Imagine seeing your daughters rapist go free because he didn't know it was illegal or he doesn't speak the local language while the bloke down the road is jailed for saying he doesn't want his tax dollars supporting immigrants. Kid stands on sidewalk watching a protest gets arrested as a right winger. Priests reading from the bible get arrested while traffic down the road is completely blocked by a group praying. Today I saw a clip where an officer was threatening to arrest a woman that was standing in a public area not doing anything but when questioned said she might be praying silently in her head.
Sure, we all hopefully see that everything is slanted some depending on the side publishing but that is what the world and locals are seeing and the government talking heads are not disputing it well.
I think the second part of that is where it gets tricky...absolutely.
Including those who stoke the rage in person and online.