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Mhh.
I've got a bit of a question, here.
What exactly is the difference between ITIC and ITLC? I know that one teachs you to instruct, and one teachs you to be a leader, but aren't those two duties in essence the same thing? If you're a leader, you give orders - you INSTRUCT those under you on how to do things, when you want them done, and that sort of thing. As an instructor, you're more or less IN CHARGE of a class - leadership on a somewhat smaller basis. (I'm a graduate of ITLC, myself.)
I think that the two of them are pretty much the same course.
Feel free to rant at me, now.
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Krisz
I've got a bit of a question, here.
What exactly is the difference between ITIC and ITLC? I know that one teachs you to instruct, and one teachs you to be a leader, but aren't those two duties in essence the same thing? If you're a leader, you give orders - you INSTRUCT those under you on how to do things, when you want them done, and that sort of thing. As an instructor, you're more or less IN CHARGE of a class - leadership on a somewhat smaller basis. (I'm a graduate of ITLC, myself.)
I think that the two of them are pretty much the same course.
Feel free to rant at me, now.
Cheers,
Krisz
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Krisz said:Mhh.
I've got a bit of a question, here.
What exactly is the difference between ITIC and ITLC? I know that one teachs you to instruct, and one teachs you to be a leader, but aren't those two duties in essence the same thing? If you're a leader, you give orders - you INSTRUCT those under you on how to do things, when you want them done, and that sort of thing. As an instructor, you're more or less IN CHARGE of a class - leadership on a somewhat smaller basis. (I'm a graduate of ITLC, myself.)
I think that the two of them are pretty much the same course.
Feel free to rant at me, now.
Cheers,
Krisz
ITIC teachers you how to teach a class of cadets. I have not been on ITIC myself, but I assume it covers lesson plans, the principles of teaching, gives you the opportunity to practice teaching etc. I would assume it basically expands on level 3 IT (Instructional Techniques).
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True, Yoman.
In essence, they're different, I suppose.
I just believe that the two courses could be combined very successfully, and perhaps they should be- not necessarily even a 6 week course.
It's most likely difficult, (but wherein lies the pleasure in anything not difficult?,) but you could probably teach Instruction and Leadership hand in hand. Once again, JLC. I believe that it's difficult to be a good instructor unless you're a good leader, and vice versa. Being a good instructor doesn't mean knowing the topic - it means that when your pupils leave your class, THEY know the topic.
Cheers,
Krisz
In essence, they're different, I suppose.
I just believe that the two courses could be combined very successfully, and perhaps they should be- not necessarily even a 6 week course.
It's most likely difficult, (but wherein lies the pleasure in anything not difficult?,) but you could probably teach Instruction and Leadership hand in hand. Once again, JLC. I believe that it's difficult to be a good instructor unless you're a good leader, and vice versa. Being a good instructor doesn't mean knowing the topic - it means that when your pupils leave your class, THEY know the topic.
Cheers,
Krisz
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The problem with combining ITL and ITI is that it would require more then 3 weeks to teach it properly. If you were to create a 'new' JLC course that's 6 weeks, it would mean less cadets can attend the course. Witch is something that you don't want.
I do believe that they are going to change some courses. Its just a matter of what courses are affected.
I do believe that they are going to change some courses. Its just a matter of what courses are affected.
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Greetings, I could not help but intervien, SLC or Senior Leaders Course covers ITLC and ITIC in six weeks. The primary difference between ITL and ITI is ITI prepares you to take instructional responsibilities in the squadron. ITL is more focused on leadership theories and procedures. Leadership procedure in taskings and what not.
Dyma Khmel
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Dyma Khmel
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Heh, well.
I suppose all I'm saying is that IN ESSENCE they're the same. Yes, I know, in essence a lot of things are similar. But teaching and leadership don't fall that far apart from each other. But I see your point.
ITIC, (Teaching in general,) involves showing Cadets how to instruct.
ITLC, (or Leadership in general,) involves showing Cadets how to put that which they've learned from teachers to good use.
Make sense?
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Krisz
I suppose all I'm saying is that IN ESSENCE they're the same. Yes, I know, in essence a lot of things are similar. But teaching and leadership don't fall that far apart from each other. But I see your point.
ITIC, (Teaching in general,) involves showing Cadets how to instruct.
ITLC, (or Leadership in general,) involves showing Cadets how to put that which they've learned from teachers to good use.
Make sense?
Cheers,
Krisz
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So whats new on the Air side?, anyone enjoy camp?, anyone looking forward to the new year?, let's hear it......... 
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Rumors eh?
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Krisz said:
HAHAHA ;D........... it's sad but true
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Not that this is by any means a good thing. All NCOs should do their best to nip these problems in the rear, and solve them before they're started - rumours, I have seen through experience, can harm a Squadron more then the truth.
Rumours = problems = more problems = ... you can see where that's going.
Cheers,
Krisz
Rumours = problems = more problems = ... you can see where that's going.
Cheers,
Krisz
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'lo, Hunt.
Not sure, to tell you the truth - you may well be the first.
Friendly advice, though...
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Not sure, to tell you the truth - you may well be the first.
Friendly advice, though...
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MSN and ICQ "short hand" - http://forums.army.ca/forums/threads/33247.0.html
Regarding the use of "MSN speak" versus the employment of prose which is correct in grammar, spelling and punctuation, please see: http://forums.army.ca/forums/threads/34015/post-260446.html#msg260446
Army.ca Conduct Guidelines: MUST READ - http://forums.army.ca/forums/threads/24937.0.html
FRIENDLY ADVICE TO NEW MEMBERS - http://forums.army.ca/forums/threads/24937/post-259412.html#msg259412
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Hereabouts, it's preferred that everyone uses capitals, grammar, proper punctuation - pretty much all the stuff that goes to Hell in a handbasket when you're typing with your buddies on messenger.
So... welcome to Army.Ca, start reading, and hopefully we have some more 848ers for you to chat with.
Failing that, bring them aboard.
Cheers,
Craig
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HuntKenny,
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MSN and ICQ "short hand" - http://forums.army.ca/forums/threads/33247.0.html
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