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The Bush administration.

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Bush- Did Cocaine Abusively for a number of years
Hitler- Opium when it all went to pot

Bush- Doesnt Mind the Jewish, Hates the Middle East
Hitler- Hated the Jews, Gypsies, anyone who wasnt Aryan

Bush-Had his power, prestige, money, and ability to come into office handed down from his father
Hitler- Worked his tookus off to get where he got
LOL!

Onet thing I think is funny (though not entirly related to the Bush administration) is how the coallition captured the Iraqi information minister, the same guy who througout the war, was saying crap like "The infidel enemy will never live to see the streets of Baghdad" while US tanks drove into it‘s city limits. I find that funny, because US officials right now are saying crap like "There‘s no geurilla war in Iraq, everyone loves us here." at the same time that US and British soldiers are getting shot at while they shop for videos.
 
Should we not remember September 11. I had a friend that passed away that day.

The Americans did not start THIS fight, some else did. It led from a rogue country, to an already threat.

Why did the US go after Iraq vs. North Korea, simple equation. The likelyhood of use of WMD. If N. Korea had WMD, they would use them as a threat, the government would hold the rest of the world hostage, the likelyhood of use is miniumal. With Iraq, Saddam has already used chemical weapons, on his own people, the risk of other WMD were extremely high. The probable use of them were great.

Terrorism is a global threat, the Americans cannot have another incident. Nor could Canada handle such an event. North America as a whole, has forever lived with the belief of free security. We live behind the worlds largest defenses, the Atlantic and Pacific Oceans. In that, as North americans we are slack in National Security. Now it has been proven that someone can get over our wall. We need to address this, Americans and Canadian together.

Could our government have handled a similar event of September 11 that the US did? What could our government have done?
 
The Americans did not start THIS fight, some else did. It led from a rogue country, to an already threat.
Be careful how you word things mate, the US certainly had a hand in Sept 11th. You say that it was unprovoked? But what would you call 40 years of sticking your nose into the Middle Easts business? Or resettling palestinians without asking them, and giving their land to the Jewish people. Then providing Isreal with 3 billion a year to do with what they will (which incidentally is likely being spent on their massive military to further opress palestinians).

Or in Afghanistan, training and providing various warlords with weapons and strategies to combat the Soviet presence - giving not only the peace seekers of the area the way of violence, but the other war mongering warlords a way of perpetuating it.

You say Saddam had it comming? Well, did he? Not much more then 20 years ago were the US and Saddam buddy-buddy. Only when the guy started rethinking fueling America did the American‘s start to dislike him - **** , they were even willing to overlook the chemical weapons he used since there was still a chance he would provide the oil.

A lot of people go around chanting the mantra of WMD as being a terrible thing. It most certainly is, but who in this world has the greatest stockpile of WMD? The US itself. How can they expect others to do what is right when they themselves are setting a different example. And that example is being followed.

I‘m not trying to bash the US administration, for certain they are trying to do what they think is best for their people and the people of the world. However, Redneck, you need to open your eyes. Islamic fundementalists don‘t believe the attacks to be unprovoked, and when you think down on it long enough, they aren‘t. That doesn‘t justify it, but it does begin to show you that not everyone in this world has the same view as you do.
 
Whenever you find that you are on the side of the majority, it is time to stop and reflect.
Mark Twain (1835 - 1910)

-lil bit revised by me = ;)
 
I agree that U.S. intelligence and military operations around the globe tend to expire, then metamorphose into blowback, like those Thaedes mentioned, and these:
  • 1973 U.S. backing of coup d‘etat in Chile resulting in the overthrow of a democratically elected government by a dictatorship. The Blowback: Around 3,000 Chileans summarily executed; thousands more tortured or exiled.
  • 1979-1988 U.S. assistance to Afghani Rebels (radical, fundamentalist zealots) against Soviet military occupation. The Blowback: murder in front of the CIA in the early 1990s; a 1993 bombing at the WTC; bombings at U.S. Embassies in Kenya and Tanzania, a U.S. military housing compound in Saudi Arabia, and the U.S.S. Cole.
  • Early ‘80s U.S. support of Saddam Hussein v. Shiite Islamic fundamentalists who overthrew the pro-U.S Shah of Iran : estimated casualties of 200,000 combined.
  • 1989 U.S. use of Manuel Noriega against Nationalist leader / invasion of Panama: thousands of Panamanians died in the bombing of Chorillo
  • Fidel Castro / CIA activity in Cuba: aircraft crashing into the Pentagon & a bombing at Sheridan Circle


But...
Islamic fundamentalists don‘t believe the attacks to be unprovoked, and when you think down on it long enough, they aren‘t.
I understand that they "feel" provoked and justified in retaliating... but there‘s no god****ed way I accept the hijacking and crashing of civilian aircraft into civilian targets. I know you don‘t accept it either.
 
Randy youre just a player, out to get attention. Based on your diatribe, it sounds like you read one author, accepted his views, and believe them true.

Sounds like the people that read mein Kampf in the 20‘s and 30‘s to me.

Take a look in the mirror before throwing comments around.
 
A lot of people go around chanting the mantra of WMD as being a terrible thing. It most certainly is, but who in this world has the greatest stockpile of WMD? The US itself. How can they expect others to do what is right when they themselves are setting a different example. And that example is being followed.
I‘m so ****ing sick of this argument. Look up the Nuclear Non-Proliferation Treaty. The US, UK, France, Russia, and China (the five permanent UN Security Council members) are all permitted possession of nuclear weapons under the treaty, and every country but Cuba, India, Pakistan, and Israel have signed.
 
Bringer: exactly, that is a tired argument. Ignorance leads men to seek hypocrisy in this where there is none.
 
We joke around that if a country wants nuclear weapons; they just ask Canada for CANDU reactors.

BTW; why does this yank have an Kalashnikov?
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That is exactly the point Randy, you are IGNORANT. Go and hit the books and do your research...you are missing a number of facts. You only refer to one political critic. There are many thousands more than that. Your perspective is schewed. Take a look at world history over the last fifty years, and you can better understand what the Bush administration has done. By drawing the parallels you have, you show how little you know. You talk like any 2-bit KKK or Nazi member. They hate bush too...so maybe you are...
 
1987:
At a lecture the other day they were playing an old news video of Lt.Col. Oliver North testifying at the Iran-Contra hearings during the Reagan
Administration. There was Ollie in front of God and country getting the third degree, but what he said was stunning!

He was being drilled by a senator; "Did you not recently spend close to $60,000 for a home security system?"

Ollie replied, "Yes, I did, Sir."

The senator continued, trying to get a laugh out of the audience, "Isn‘t that just a little excessive?"

"No, sir," continued Ollie.

"No? And why not?" the senator asked.

"Because the lives of my family and I were threatened, sir."

"Threatened? By whom?" the senator questioned.

"By a terrorist, sir" Ollie answered.

"Terrorist? What terrorist could possibly scare you that much?"

"His name is Osama bin Laden, sir" Ollie replied.

At this point the senator tried to repeat the name, but couldn‘t pronounce it, which most people back then probably couldn‘t. A couple of people laughed at the attempt. Then the senator continued. Why are you so afraid of this man?" the senator asked.

"Because, sir, he is the most evil person alive that I know of", Ollie answered.

"And what do you recommend we do about him?" asked the senator.

"Well, sir, if it was up to me, I would recommend that an assassin team be formed to eliminate him and his men from the face of the earth."

The senator disagreed with this approach, and that was all that was shown of the clip.

By the way, that senator was Al Gore.

I repeat this was taped in 1987

Also:
Terrorist pilot Mohammad Atta blew up a bus in Israel in 1986. The Israelis captured, tried and imprisoned him. As part of the Oslo agreement with the Palestinians in 1993, Israel had to agree to release so-called "political prisoners."

However, the Israelis would not release any with blood on their hands, The American President at the time, Bill Clinton, and his Secretary of
State, Warren Christopher, "insisted" that all prisoners be released.

Thus Mohammad Atta was freed and eventually thanked the US by flying an airplane into Tower One of the World Trade Center. This was reported by many of the American TV networks at the time that the terrorists were first identified. It was censored in the US from all later reports.

This info was forwarded to me by a friend of mine and it came to mind will listening to your pro Clinton, pro Gore comments, Randy. I don‘t know, you decide what you think.

hmmm....Ruthless Randy, is that your porn name or are you a wrestler?
 
Point taken, Korus, I‘ve been victimized by meaningless internet dribble, and am furthermore guilty of passing it on. Sentence: one night with the fattest, ugliest cougar at the nearest watering hole.

PS man I hate being wrong, but i still think ruthless randy is a porn name.
 
Yes...you both are right. To easy to put up garbage and get into repetitive rant. We should chat about it over beer and wake up in the morning saying "what was it I said?". Cheers
 
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