The Conservative Scandal Sheet: Split from: Stéphane Dion Wins Lib. Leadership

[zipperhead_cop]

Do I like the Liberal platforms?  I don't know yet.

But the Liberals don't stand for ANYTHING beyond the next election. They just try to ride the fence, watch polls and keep things status quo, except for Quebec which gets artificially propped up year after year to buy votes. Despite the NDP being half baked and completely out of touch with reality, they at least stick to their guns (which is great since they will eventually be bumped out by the Green party).
I would love to see a comparison of Liberal initiatives highlighted against the six months prior to an election. Then also indicate how many of the vote buying ideas aren't scheduled until after the election. It is pathetic and obvious.  

The reverse onus is an abomination in a legal system with the presumption of innocence.  Presumably, if the offender is on his/her third strike, it won't be so hard for the government to prove them a dangerous offender anyway.  It happens every day in this country.  Make the prosecutors do their jobs.

Yeah, you let the children of the murdered women know that after their dad gets out of jail for the fourth time in a row after breaching his non-association conditions with her after he beat her up in the first place.  Don't put it on the Crowns, it is the Liberal appointed Judges.  However, I will be happy to invite you over to the "Judges are everything that is wrong in Canada" thread so as to not get too hijacky with this thread. 

 

[Colin Parkinson]

How about the gun registry that was supposed to cost 2 million a year to run, has cost around 2 billion and needs 100 million a year to barely function (plus it took them 2 years to register my .22. They sent me a letter saying they didn’t have enough information to complete the file, the missing information was my mailing address!)

Have we mentioned the purchase of the Challenger jets yet?

Or the lack of replacements for the Sea Kings?

How about a PM that was to cheap to hire Canadian Seaman for his ships and had them registered offshore to avoid paying Canadian taxes and meet Canadian safety standards?

Golf courses anyone?

Adscam?

APEC and sucking up to dictators by forcing Canadians to remove protest signs from their own property. Not to mention interference from the PMO with the RCMP.

Etc,etc.

The real scandal is I wasted 20 minutes reading this thread, think I will do something useful like debate the 9mm vs .45acp issue. 

 

[GAP]

How about the gun registry that was supposed to cost 2 million a year to run, has cost around 2 billion and needs 100 million a year to barely function (plus it took them 2 years to register my .22. They sent me a letter saying they didn’t have enough information to complete the file, the missing information was my mailing address!)

Did you send back the carrier pigeon that brought the letter?

 

[a_majoor]

It looks like we have to split off a portion from this split off thread:

The accusation of CPC scandals is unproven (and for now there has been no evidence presented to suggest any scandals to date)

Disagreements with specific CPC policy proposals or legislation is a totally different matter, and involves a combination of values (i.e. do these proposals and laws match your world view?) and judgment (will these laws and proposals do what they say, or are there intended or unintended consequences to passing such laws?). Like someone said earlier, this isn't the "Why the CPC ROCKS" thread.

As a BTW, although my world view is libertarian, I generally support the CPC since they represent many of my values and are able to implement them into law (unlike a presumptive Libertarian Party in the Federal arena). Prime Minister Harper has drawn my anger in the "Quebecois are a Nation within Canada" thing, and I am no fan of corporate or agricultural welfare, which is what the biofuels proposal really is, despite the "Green" dress clothes, so he better watch out or I will be coming for him.......

 

[Boxkicker]

Quebec9er I must say that the countries I have visited where Arabic is the predominate language, you'd be dead for what you are saying so be carefull I dont think we want to have to come and save your A**.

  But you cannot blame him for the thinking he has this is what they are teaching in our universities. Unfortunatley it does not teach common sense, my sister has all the same kind of things that go through her head. At least she worked through MED school and did not want a government hand out.

  Do I agree with all of Stephen Harper's policies not a chance, but at least we have a democrcy that allows us to have those thoughts. Our current PM has done what he has said what he is going to do and that is all we can ask of anyone.

  As for the reverse onus stuff the next time someone fires a weapon in your direction Q9 and then blame the government why he is not in jail, you had better ask yourself why and is it right, that this person is on the streets and why should he not have to prove that they are not a danger to those of us that respect the law.

  Q9 just remeber it is because of us and those like us in the past that YOU have the freedom's you have today!!!

 

[sober_ruski]

In the debate over who is the most corrupt/honest, I don't think the political party matters so much.  I think most of them will do/say anything to gain or preserve access to power.

Harper *said* he would rather lose an election over something he believes is right, than be a fence sitting flip flopper.  Not often that is heard from a politician. For some reason I have more trust in his actions that rich lawyer types from Quebec.

 

[FastEddy]

And $200 million to allow Quebec separation to disappear off the radar for almost 10 years is a great policy if we are discussing policy as scandal.

Why do I get the feeling your more "The Block" than "Liberal".

If you wanted to compare scandals or performance in a quasi legal terminology, what the PC have done are "Misdemeanors" and the Liberals "Felony's".

I would also suggest you fill out your Profile, to at least, add some credibility to your comments.

 

[vonGarvin]

Fast Eddy
His profile used to be filled out quite well, but took it down for some reason.

 

[Franko]

Another drive by trolling.

locking this one up.....got something to add to the coversation, contact a mod.

Regards