The Emerging CAF Deep Sense-Strike Complex

[ytz]

Not sure if people have recognized the emerging strategy behind CAF acquisitions that focus on long range sense and strike.

Sensors. AEWC, OTHR, CDSEA, DESSP

Shooters. Eventually we'll have HIMARS with PrSM, RCD with TLAM, F-35s with JASSMs.

By say 2036, the CAF will have a multi-domain deep sense and strike complex with the ability to acquire targets and prosecute them at substantial ranges (easily greater than 300 km).

Something to consider for discussion.

 

[ytz]

Now if only we can build the software and data integration to go with all that capability.....

 

[Halifax Tar]

Now if only we can build the software and data integration to go with all that capability.....

And the ammunition and parts production and stockpiles to sustain that capability.

 

[ytz]

It's a capability class normally reserved for more substantial powers. I bring it up because with all the doom and gloom sometimes, or the focus on drones, the actual strategy is lost in the noise.

 

[PuckChaser]

Now if only we can build the software and data integration to go with all that capability.....

Best we can do is let DLCSPM give contracts to GDMS to produce 1990s technology in the 2030s.

 

[ytz]

Best we can do is let DLCSPM give contracts to GDMS to produce 1990s technology in the 2030s.

I mean you now have organizations producing their own software. And I'm not sure if that's better.

 

[SeaKingTacco]

I mean you now have organizations producing their own software. And I'm not sure if that's better.

It is not.

 

[dapaterson]

I mean you now have organizations producing their own software. And I'm not sure if that's better.

I will not stand for this MCS slander.

 

[ytz]

It is not.

You mean the cool Situational Awareness Software I cobbled together with student interns, 2LT OJTs and two contractors isn't as good as GDMS?

How dare you sir?

 

[ytz]

I am hoping the CAF gets something like Maven from Palantir.

 

[dapaterson]

I am hoping the CAF gets something like Maven from Palantir.

US AI company? Who would harvest and keep all DND/CAF's data regardless of the contract terms?

No, thank you.

 

[SeaKingTacco]

You mean the cool Situational Awareness Software I cobbled together with student interns, 2LT OJTs and two contractors isn't as good as GDMS?

How dare you sir?

I mean, not to be offensive, but- no?

With that said, I have direct experience in 12 Wing, watching a “garage build” situational awareness tool out perform the tool designed, built and delivered by a big contractor, for hundreds of millions of dollars.

 

[ytz]

US AI company? Who would harvest and keep all DND/CAF's data regardless of the contract terms?

No, thank you.

We can actually buy the software and keep data in Canada. When SSC gets their act together and finally builds the classified cloud.

 

[ytz]

I mean, not to be offensive, but- no?

With that said, I have direct experience in 12 Wing, watching a “garage build” situational awareness tool out perform the designed built and delivered by a big contractor, for hundreds of millions of dollars.

I was being facetious.

That said, my homebrew is being used to brief the General's CUB. So I'm quite happy how it turned out. Better than fucking PowerPoint.

 

[SeaKingTacco]

I was being facetious.

That said, my homebrew is being used to brief the General's CUB. So I'm quite happy how it turned out. Better than fucking PowerPoint.

You don’t do sarcastic humour, huh?

We will get you there yet, brother…

 

[ytz]

You don’t do sarcastic humour, huh?

We will get you there yet, brother…

Internet translation error.

 

[SeaKingTacco]

Internet translation error.

 

[PuckChaser]

I am hoping the CAF gets something like Maven from Palantir.

Great software. Thats only a small piece of the equation. How do you move, secure and store all that data?

Laymen focus on the shiny end user tool. Signalers focus on the network that runs it, which is exponentially more expensive and complex. Unfortunately our institution is hyper focused on that end user toolset with projects to deliver the core network siloed away and delivering something 10 years from now.

 

[ytz]

Great software. Thats only a small piece of the equation. How do you move, secure and store all that data?

Laymen focus on the shiny end user tool. Signalers focus on the network that runs it, which is exponentially more expensive and complex. Unfortunately our institution is hyper focused on that end user toolset with projects to deliver the core network siloed away and delivering something 10 years from now.

SSC is supposed to deliver a TS Cloud.

 

[KevinB]

We can actually buy the software and keep data in Canada. When SSC gets their act together and finally builds the classified cloud.

I trust Palantir about as far as I can throw them, while covering them with a weapon…

While I think they have a good edge in certain fields, they are a data aggregator, and will take everything they can get.