The Emerging CAF Deep Sense-Strike Complex

[ytz]

Article that anyone who wants to really understand this thread needs to read.

What Is Maven Smart System, and What Does It Do?

And this.

https://shape.nato.int/news-releases/nato-acquires-aienabled-warfighting-system-

MSS is the system for NORAD and NATO operational C2 support. The estimate is fairly easy on this one.

And everybody who comes back from a NORAD/NATO posting tends to ask why we don't have this at home.

 

[PuckChaser]

And everybody who comes back from a NORAD/NATO posting tends to ask why we don't have this at home.

Because they don't understand how complex the bearers, servers and networks are to make something like MSS work. We dont have a trillion dollars of space and terrestrial based links to move data around the battlefield to end up in T59s Leopard 2.

 

[ytz]

We dont have a trillion dollars of space and terrestrial based links to move data around the battlefield to end up in T59s Leopard 2.

But we will have a chunk of this in 10-15 years. The CAF will literally have its own radar surveillance satellites with global coverage. Think of the amount of data that will generate. And that's just one sensor coming online.

We actually need to start thinking like a bigger military. Because the CAF in 2040 will be unrecognizable and incomprehensible to basically anybody who has served till now.

 

[Brad Sallows]

Article that anyone who wants to really understand this thread needs to read.

What Is Maven Smart System, and What Does It Do?

"Harpoon", come to life.

 

[PuckChaser]

But we will have a chunk of this in 10-15 years. The CAF will literally have its own radar surveillance satellites with global coverage. Think of the amount of data that will generate. And that's just one sensor coming online.

We actually need to start thinking like a bigger military. Because the CAF in 2040 will be unrecognizable and incomprehensible to basically anybody who has served till now.

And that data is going to sit at Tunneys or move around the NCR without ever seeing an operation. I really don't think you have any clue about the scope and scale of the problem to move that amount of data outside of permanent infrastructure.

 

[Furniture]

And that data is going to sit at Tunneys or move around the NCR without ever seeing an operation. I really don't think you have any clue about the scope and scale of the problem to move that amount of data outside of permanent infrastructure.

Isn't that part of the reason for "fighting from the MOC" as the USN says? The forward commanders don't need every piece of data from around the globe, they need tailored data, while the "MOC" deals with the bigger picture and all of the data.

 

[PuckChaser]

Isn't that part of the reason for "fighting from the MOC" as the USN says? The forward commanders don't need every piece of data from around the globe, they need tailored data, while the "MOC" deals with the bigger picture and all of the data.

The US has bearers that can provide 1080p from helmet cams in a cave in Syria to the situation room. They can fight from the US because they have hundreds of billions in dedicated global bandwidth. We have systems that would barely be considered high speed internet but want the same AI data resources. Its not realistic and that expectation is killing the signalers trying to do the best they can with 1990s tech.

 

[brihard]

The US has bearers that can provide 1080p from helmet cams in a cave in Syria to the situation room. They can fight from the US because they have hundreds of billions in dedicated global bandwidth. We have systems that would barely be considered high speed internet but want the same AI data resources. Its not realistic and that expectation is killing the signalers trying to do the best they can with 1990s tech.

What does a fix to that look like? The problem won’t go away and will only keep getting worse… Can a big dent be made by throwing money at this?

 

[Infanteer]