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The Great Gun Control Debate- 2.0

The anti-gun lobby will see right through that, and hoist Trudeau by the nuts.
 
Cloud Cover said:
The anti-gun lobby will see right through that, and hoist Trudeau by the nuts.
The mention of a specific hoist point makes an assumption that may not be accurate.
 
RCMP Slows Printing Gun Licences, Fuelling Speculation of Bans

15 May 2019

TheGunBlog.ca — Canada’s federal agency in charge of gun licensing everyone from hunters and farmers to Olympic shooters said it slowed printing the permits because of “technical circumstances,” fuelling speculation new firearm bans are imminent.

“Due to technical circumstances, the Canadian Firearms Program (CFP) is producing firearms licence cards in a limited capacity between March 11 and June 7, 2019,” a spokeswoman for the Ottawa-based Royal Canadian Mounted Police told TheGunBlog.ca today by e-mail in response to questions.

https://thegunblog.ca/2019/05/15/rcmp-slows-printing-gun-licences-fuelling-speculation-of-bans/



The RCMP will "fix" their technical difficulties one day after the
Women Deliver conference that the Liberals are rumored to announce sweeping changes to firearm laws and ownership in Canada.

I'm sure its a coincidence.
 
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Jesus what did John Tory do? The spike started at almost the exact moment he got elected!  :cold:
 
John Tory ended "carding", and he reduced the number of cops.  Seems like an appropriate result.


https://nationalpost.com/news/toronto/toronto-mayor-john-tory-announces-plans-to-permanently-end-carding

https://toronto.citynews.ca/2018/06/15/mayor-tory-rejects-idea-carding-ban-led-gun-violence/
 
Time to ban bananas...
 

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Bill C-71 just passed third reading in the Senate a few minutes ago.  It will receive Royal Assent tomorrow.
 
https://globalnews.ca/news/5335558/feds-guns-clamp-down-hunt-people/


Forget for a minute that Bill Blair is telling us the RCMP and other police forces use guns "designed to hunt people", check out the blatant attempt at identity politics. Specifically, who he's trying to drum up support from.

“These weapons are for use in the battlefield, but too often they have been brought into our communities and used to target and kill law enforcement, women, members of the LGBTQ2S community, religious observers and children doing nothing more than attending class.

What garbage.
 
Jarnhamar said:
What garbage.

Not garbage.  Strategy.  The Liberals control the narrative on gun control and are using the MSM to shape the battlespace in support of their ban(s).  The harsher the precursor condemnation of "weapons of war in our neighbourhoods in civilian hands" the harsher the ban(s) will be.  My prediction is that this will be so well sold that by mid-month they will be polling back in minority territory in most urban areas.
 
Haggis said:
Strategy.  The Liberals control the narrative on gun control and are using the MSM to shape the battlespace...
And with every news story about a school/religious shooting in the US, the people most disposed to proclaim that Canadians are superior to Americans will buy in that 'something must be done' here.  Actual legal and statistical comparisons between the two countries are irrelevant.
 
2019: "military style assault weapons used to hunt people will be banned!"
2020: "handguns used to rob and murder people will be banned!"
2021: "super accurate bolt-action and scoped sniper rifles used to hunt people from afar will be banned!"
2022: "shotguns, which are really just cannons used to blow people to pieces, will be banned!"

It's important to note that a firearm or class of firearm banned by an OIC by this government cannot be un-banned by an OIC by a future government.  It remains banned until legislative changes are made to refine the classification to now include the banned class/firearm in the refined definition.

The big question now is that under C-71, is an OIC even required to ban certain classes?  Now that the RCMP can classify/reclassify firearms, could they not simply reclassify all restricted to prohibited with/without grandfathering?  Could the PM - as he did with VAdm Norman - publicly state that "I expect that the RCMP will now reclassify all handguns and semi-automatic firearms to keep them out of civilian hands" and the RCMP, like in the Norman investigation, would follow this implied order?
 
Haggis said:
Not garbage.  Strategy.  The Liberals control the narrative on gun control and are using the MSM to shape the battlespace in support of their ban(s).  The harsher the precursor condemnation of "weapons of war in our neighbourhoods in civilian hands" the harsher the ban(s) will be.  My prediction is that this will be so well sold that by mid-month they will be polling back in minority territory in most urban areas.

I have words I'd like to use to describe him  but I'd get infractions for it.

Everything about what they're trying to do is deceitful and based on bullshit.

Like the idea that requiring gun owners to call the RCMP to obtain a permission slip to transport restricted firearms to the post office or gun Smith will combat crime. The whole principal of a ATT is stupid. It's like having a driver's licence but requiring a permission note to drive to get gas or take the car to the mechanic.

 
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