The Great Gun Control Debate- 2.0

[Eaglelord17]

Once they bring in the Emergency Act I will not be surprised that Blair and JT will abuse it to round up undesirable firearms, that sort of power is often  irresistible to those types. the only thing saving us would be the already critical manpower shortages.

That would very much go against self quarantining, having to go into all those homes. Plus I don't think they would want the added burden on the medical system at this point in time as if they start kicking in doors to take peoples property, there will likely be at least a few cops and citizens dead.

 

[Colin Parkinson]

That's logical thinking, but you can bet that some are fantasising about doing just that and it's likely been kicked around in cabinet. They could just order you to bring your guns in for "safe keeping" and never return them. Failure to do so, would invalidate your PAL and they will confiscate them later.

 

[SeaKingTacco]

Bring them to who? Where?

The Provinces are responsible for policing. They would all scream bloody murder if this was overlayed on an international health emergency. It runs contrary to all of the social distancing orders.

Even the Liberals are not quite that stupid.

 

[Colin Parkinson]

Well it's as logical as the whole ban thing, it does not mean they won't try.

 

[my72jeep]

Even the Liberals are not quite that stupid.

Do you really believe that?

 

[AbdullahD]

That would very much go against self quarantining, having to go into all those homes. Plus I don't think they would want the added burden on the medical system at this point in time as if they start kicking in doors to take peoples property, there will likely be at least a few cops and citizens dead.

If it happens, which I doubt it will.. I will be coughing my heart out while they are in my home and on to them, shaking their hands, patting their back, guiding them to my safe with my arms etc ^^

Heck right now all I technically need to surrend is a stripped AR Lower I bought for a hundred-ish bucks.. (i forget how much tbh). It could be worth it to me, just to say I'm self quarantining and they raided my house and then didn't quarantine themselves haha.

Abdullah

P.s this is my second sarcastic, joking post today.. I must just be in a sarcastic mood. Sorry if it annoys.

 

[Jarnhamar]

I can see the government using the fear of the unknown and threat of armed gangs stealing peoples limited supplies as fuel to justify smashing the assault weapon ban through.

After all you don't want conservatives criminals running around with assault weapons at times like this do you? When police are stretched to their limit? Let the military and police be the ones holding these deadly death dealing machines.

What mr gun owner? You want to make a big deal about money for your inanimate property when people have lose their jobs and and are trying to afford essentials like food? Shame on you, you'll get your money later, after we give people money for food.

 

[Jarnhamar]

What are politicians doing about all the mass shootings and drastic increase in "gun crime" after unprecedented amounts of guns and ammo have been bought across Canada due to the corona virus panic?

 

[LittleBlackDevil]

What are politicians doing about all the mass shootings and drastic increase in "gun crime" after unprecedented amounts of guns and ammo have been bought across Canada due to the corona virus panic?

Yeah, funny how society hasn't dissolved into complete anarchy and violence with all the gun and ammo sales.

It's crazy, I can't find 5.56 anywhere, aside from a few boxes of the really really expensive stuff. I went to Canadian Tire a few weeks ago and bought their last few boxes of 12 Guage 00 Buck. The "hunting is the only legitimate reason to own firearms" type working the counter was fit to be tied and vented freely to me about "why is everyone buying this stuff? People are idiots". I decided to just keep my peace and took my ammo.

I have also found it very interesting to see some attitudes change. Chatting with a couple police officers (again a few weeks ago, before complete lockdown and social distancing -- i.e. when you could still have conversations with people not of your own household) about how the police are scaling back their enforcement of crime due to COVID-19 concerns. A young lady who was hitherto a "no one needs guns" sort, said "maybe I should get a gun" and the officers just kind of quietly nodded without saying anything. I guarantee 60 days ago that would conversation would have never happened.

 

[CBH99]

What are politicians doing about all the mass shootings and drastic increase in "gun crime" after unprecedented amounts of guns and ammo have been bought across Canada due to the corona virus panic?

I'm not being sarcastic here at all.  Has their been a dramatic increase in mass shootings and gun crime? 

Honest question.  I've tried to tune the news out of late, and usually just come here to read articles posted by members.  The non-stop nonsense of the mainstream media has finally driven me to ignore them almost completely.

 

[Jarnhamar]

Not at all. There was a toilet paper style buying frenzie on ammo and some stores even sold out of guns.

Government still says they want to go ahead with banning a certian style of firearm that "science based evidence" as Trudeau loves saying, doesn't indicate are used in more shootings.

 

[Brad Sallows]

>Has their been a dramatic increase in mass shootings and gun crime?

Not yet, but many more people than usual are under severe stress.  But the stress is the root of problems, not the guns.

 

[Kat Stevens]

>Has their been a dramatic increase in mass shootings and gun crime?

Not yet, but many more people than usual are under severe stress.  But the stress is the root of problems, not the guns.

You say "not yet" like it's an inevitability, wouldn't a simple "no" have done?
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[Brad Sallows]

Unfortunately, I think it's a possibility (not an inevitability).  My answer combines "no" with "but it might".

 

[LittleBlackDevil]

Trudeau wasting no time whatsoever to capitalize on the tragedy in NS:

https://www.washingtonpost.com/world/the_americas/nova-scotia-shootings-trudeau-gun-control-wortman-rcmp/2020/04/20/dbc54d40-829e-11ea-81a3-9690c9881111_story.html

 

[Jarnhamar]

I wonder if we will see a ban on civilian owned police uniforms, auctioned police vehicles and lights/sirens to go with the assault weapons.

 

[McG]

Trudeau wasting no time whatsoever to capitalize on the tragedy in NS:

https://www.washingtonpost.com/world/the_americas/nova-scotia-shootings-trudeau-gun-control-wortman-rcmp/2020/04/20/dbc54d40-829e-11ea-81a3-9690c9881111_story.html

If you watch the interview, he was responding to a question from a reporter asking if gun control would be increased in response to the shooting.  He opened by correctly noting that it was too soon to speculate on specific reactions or decisions that should/could stem from these recent killings. 

 

[Haggis]

.... civilian owned police uniforms...

Like the dark blue work pants and work shirts worn by mechanics and other tradespeople every day?  I can see maybe some type of ban on the sale of Police/LE insignia and memorabilia.

FWIW the ban on military-style semi automatics, (then, when the Liberals saw the pushback against that was manageable, all semi automatics, then handguns) was going to happen no matter what.  COVID -19 just pushed it to the right for a while.  This event has brought it back out in front.  What remains to be seen now is whether the advertised buyback will still be in place or will it be deemed too expensive or marketed as "taking money away from essential healthcare"?

 

[Journeyman]

I imagine imagery like this is having an effect on anti-gun thinking.

 

[Haggis]

I imagine imagery like this is having an effect on anti-gun thinking.

indeed, because anti-gun activists conveniently draw parallels between the American NRA, who condone these displays (even if legal, they are wholly inappropriate IMO) and the Canadian pro-gun "NRA-like" groups (CSSA, CCFR, NFA).

This may sound callous, but what made this latest attack so successful was not the firearm(s) used, but that the attacker posed as a trusted public figure to close with and engage his victims who had their guard completely down.  Even a "prepper" type would have likely let their guard down had they been approached by a uniformed officer showing no threat cues.