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Between the EA invocation and this, arguing that the LPC/NDP is how we preserve civil liberties in Canada has become a difficult sell.
The Great Gun Control Debate- 2.0
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The one scary thing is that (as far as I know) neither leader of either party has ever once stated that preserving or protecting freedom is a goal of theirs.
Like not even a secondary goal, or a tertiary goal.
Between previous attempts to pass additional gun control legislation, trying to pass Bill C-11 (I believe that was it anyway) on regulating what content Canadians can access online, this gun control legislation, and a ton of other sneaky moves….
Regardless of whether I like either party or not, preserving freedom is NOT something I think people will associate them with.
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So a persons handguns are theirs until they die and then you can turn them into the police?
A 10 rd "pistol" magazine is still a "pistol" magazine though right you just cant use it?
A 10 rd "pistol" magazine is still a "pistol" magazine though right you just cant use it?
But it isn’t…
I mean it is, you’re right. I’m not arguing your statement at all.
But I don’t know a single person, regardless of where they are in the country, that doesn’t think JT is a joke. (And that’s probably the nicest thing I’ve heard said about him.)
How he got re-elected beats me… my sock could have done better than either of the other parties did
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That magazine restriction affects all long guns too.
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Yes but its not a long gun magazine until its inserted into a long gun correct?
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Don't forget this gem. Filed under "because Trudeau cares" from Feb 2021
LILLEY: Trudeau reduces sentence for serious gun crimes
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It's manufactured as a pistol magazine and under the law pistol magazines are limited to 10 rounds.
Using a 10 round pistol magazine in a rifle was a loophole but they can just wordsmith shit to close that loop.
For example a .50 Beowolf magazine could fit 5x .50 Beowolf bullets (I think). It could also fit 15x 5.56mm bullets. People got away with using them for a while but then the gov and RCMP somehow had that loophole closed. Maybe something about not using bullets not intended for a magazine or something.
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Enfields, Garands, Levers, Shotguns ect dont have that choice.
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Yeah so probably a paperweight now
probably a lot more banned firearms coming
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This is super important in my opinion. Where I am I deal with an astronomical amount of gun crime from gang bangers. They don’t go to jail On firearms offences. And when they do it’s a couple months. Until they commit a VIOLENT crime.
Like hanging a rival gang member and bleeding them out. Then they get a couple years.
But the firearms offences net me basically zero unless it’s in conjunction with something else.
So how are these laws impacting Canadian safety? It’s just impacting Canadians as far as I can tell in a practical and anecdotal way,
I don’t care for firearms much. But I am not concerned with my friends and family having them.
It’s very weird
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This country is all 50 shades of fucked up, Costa Rica is looking better and better.
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It's not that weird when you look it at as an extension of our polarization. If gun ownership was big in the Liberal party they wouldn't propose such stupidity.
This is isn't legislation for a safer Canada this is legislation to attack the other politcal side.
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I suppose. If you want safer Canadians, keep the ones abusing vulnerable people away from them.
Maybe if they were doing tough laws AND this it wouldn’t seem so hollow.
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But if Canada was safe, how could he fear-monger voters…
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I see this very much as the follow up to the trucker vaccine thing. Well calculated division. Most Canadian's will either support or not care, and the vast majority of legal gun owners are left almost completely untouched. 5 rounds has been the long gun cap for what, 30 years? Restricted licenses make up what, 1/6 of PAL's? But the opposition has to fight it on principle, which distracts from winning at general. In my opinion this is less about capitalizing on fear and more about capitalizing on apathy to generate localized anger.
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My main objection is that the government claims the country has a bit of a problem with right-wing extremism, and this policy - at the margins - should be expected to move a bunch of people a little further to the right from wherever they were yesterday/last week/last month. Extremists are "at fault" for what they do, but as with vehicle accidents, there are usually others who were in a position to reasonably prevent tragedy.
More coarsely, it's stupid to the fucking bone to unnecessarily piss people off.
More coarsely, it's stupid to the fucking bone to unnecessarily piss people off.
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Cynically: good politics, bad leadership.
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