The Great Gun Control Debate- 2.0
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Halifax Tar
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I dont know what amazes me more.
The fact the Liberals are still in power and have no real threat. The fact that they can probably win at least another minority government. Or that the opposition is incapable of presenting a viable alternative.
I am really hoping on PP. But without a majority none of this will get reversed.
The fact the Liberals are still in power and have no real threat. The fact that they can probably win at least another minority government. Or that the opposition is incapable of presenting a viable alternative.
I am really hoping on PP. But without a majority none of this will get reversed.
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I think jumping on the cryptobro bandwagon was shortsighted and will come back to continually haunt him.
It's a giant ponzi scheme with no regulation, and no real value anyway, but the public implosion and ongoing bubble bursting on the house of cards on the exchanges will probably piss off the people that bought into the ponzi way too late and are now losing their shirts.
At least with the tulip bulb, pet rock or other fads you at least had something in your hands at the end of it.
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He should have just started pumping the South Sea Company
The similarity in trend lines are amazing!
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The majority of Canadians have been very accepting of the erosion of liberties and individual rights since Trudeau became PM. The government has the green light to push more control/more restrictions into all kinds of subject areas. They know they are only going to get about 30% pushback from any given group on any subject.
There are folks ok with vaccine mandates and the recent invoking of the EA. There are folks ok with federal intrusion into provincial jurisdictions.
All of these suspensions of liberty matter.
There are folks ok with vaccine mandates and the recent invoking of the EA. There are folks ok with federal intrusion into provincial jurisdictions.
All of these suspensions of liberty matter.
Halifax Tar
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The irony is that may sink him. And then look at everything out current PM has done.
It's amazing what Canadians will let people away with.
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Most people don't own or just don't really care about crypto. The red and orange liberals will try make hay with it, but I doubt it'll stick, let alone be understood by most voters. White noise.
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I know it'll be a pain, but maybe a mod could clear the non gun clag into another thread. Maybe something like The Effects of Bill C-21.
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They still have websites in the banned firearms list. (z.085) AR15.Com ARFCOM; (z.086) AR15.Com AR15.Com; 
They haven't even checked their own list . They ran an algorithm, it spit out a list and they just added the results without technical examination. Or maybe they did and Murray Smith, their tech expert, isn't as 'expert' as they claim. They don't even know what guns are on there. Centrefire, semi auto, magazine became their reason. And yet, there are still .22 cal rimfire firearms listed. Cobbled together piece of shyte. Printed and applied without even a modicum of oversight.
The Bill also takes the classification of firearms away from government and give it to the RCMP, along with other things that were placed in legislation so no-one could act unilaterally. So now, someone like Smith can just log onto his computer and ban whatever the fuck he wants. Just like he/they did with the current list.
And trudeau washes his hands like Pontias Pilatus and let's his weaponized RCMP take the hit.
They haven't even checked their own list . They ran an algorithm, it spit out a list and they just added the results without technical examination. Or maybe they did and Murray Smith, their tech expert, isn't as 'expert' as they claim. They don't even know what guns are on there. Centrefire, semi auto, magazine became their reason. And yet, there are still .22 cal rimfire firearms listed. Cobbled together piece of shyte. Printed and applied without even a modicum of oversight.
The Bill also takes the classification of firearms away from government and give it to the RCMP, along with other things that were placed in legislation so no-one could act unilaterally. So now, someone like Smith can just log onto his computer and ban whatever the fuck he wants. Just like he/they did with the current list.
And trudeau washes his hands like Pontias Pilatus and let's his weaponized RCMP take the hit.
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Basically they have banned 85% of my collection
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Same here.
Liberals deleted a couple billion dollars worth of Canadians wealth/property.
Halifax Tar
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The fudds have been very quiet the last day or so. I suspect they are in shock.
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Yup, I'm out an absolute shitload. I could easily buy a fully decked out new Ram 2500, with what this government just stole from me.
Now I have to stop. My blood pressure just set of my alarm
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The best revenge is just living well on your own terms.
If that's not enough, there are hundreds of small legitimate ways to increase friction, particularly when you have ample spare time and other people do not - just drive the speed limit everywhere, for example.
If that's not enough, there is crushing your enemies, driving them before you, and hearing the lamentations of their women.
If that's not enough, there are hundreds of small legitimate ways to increase friction, particularly when you have ample spare time and other people do not - just drive the speed limit everywhere, for example.
If that's not enough, there is crushing your enemies, driving them before you, and hearing the lamentations of their women.
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Yup, I'm out an absolute shitload. I could easily buy a fully decked out new Ram 2500, with what this government just stole from me.
Now I have to stop. My blood pressure just set of my alarm
Doges aren't worth much...
I jest.
Feel your pain brother.
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I understood the Doges of Venice were quite wealthy.
Halifax Tar
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Lol I hate phone keyboards lol
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That list is stupid. The prohibited by name list has always been stupid. At least do it by characteristics i.e. something measurable.
On that list includes many historical firearms. AG-42b, SKS, M1 Garand, G41s and G43s, M1 Carbines, etc.
I can’t recall the last time I was this frustrated. You literally work your ass off, pay your taxes, follow ridiculous laws that do nothing to protect anyone and are all about inconveniencing you, and this is the garbage they pull.
On that list includes many historical firearms. AG-42b, SKS, M1 Garand, G41s and G43s, M1 Carbines, etc.
I can’t recall the last time I was this frustrated. You literally work your ass off, pay your taxes, follow ridiculous laws that do nothing to protect anyone and are all about inconveniencing you, and this is the garbage they pull.
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It's actually incredible to think anyone believed this was going to end any other way. This was always Canada's destiny, to join the ranks of other anti-gun countries like UK, Australia, NZ, etc.
They essentially brought back a new form of registry in May. Every gun registry in history has lead to confiscation. The writing was on the wall for ages. Despite every clue, every signal that this was going to happen, most people just kept saying "They'll never do that" and now here we are, the final chapter, and they're closing in on the last of the guns that weren't already banned. Even if they don't get every variant this time, and a few are left, they'll eventually add them to list.
Anyone who is interested in gun ownership and the right to self-defence should know by now that the government is doing everything it can to ensure Canadians won't be allowed either. Believing otherwise is as foolish as all the people who said "But...They will never ban X..." only to see it in the following ban, it won't end until everything is gone except some highly regulated hunting rifles, and even then we can expect those laws will continue to get stricter and stricter because at the end of the day a bullet is a bullet and no amount of regulation will go far enough for the anti-gun crowd.
That part of our freedom in this country is dead and gone, there's no convincing arguments to suggest we'll see that change, it only gets worse from here. This country doesn't have the 2nd amendment, so essentially the USA will be last place in the West that allows gun ownership and the right to adequately defend yourself in an increasingly violent society.
Sorry to be so blunt, but honestly, who really thought this wasn't coming? It was only a matter of time for Canada. It was always only a matter of time.
They essentially brought back a new form of registry in May. Every gun registry in history has lead to confiscation. The writing was on the wall for ages. Despite every clue, every signal that this was going to happen, most people just kept saying "They'll never do that" and now here we are, the final chapter, and they're closing in on the last of the guns that weren't already banned. Even if they don't get every variant this time, and a few are left, they'll eventually add them to list.
Anyone who is interested in gun ownership and the right to self-defence should know by now that the government is doing everything it can to ensure Canadians won't be allowed either. Believing otherwise is as foolish as all the people who said "But...They will never ban X..." only to see it in the following ban, it won't end until everything is gone except some highly regulated hunting rifles, and even then we can expect those laws will continue to get stricter and stricter because at the end of the day a bullet is a bullet and no amount of regulation will go far enough for the anti-gun crowd.
That part of our freedom in this country is dead and gone, there's no convincing arguments to suggest we'll see that change, it only gets worse from here. This country doesn't have the 2nd amendment, so essentially the USA will be last place in the West that allows gun ownership and the right to adequately defend yourself in an increasingly violent society.
Sorry to be so blunt, but honestly, who really thought this wasn't coming? It was only a matter of time for Canada. It was always only a matter of time.
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