The Great Gun Control Debate- 2.0

[Halifax Tar]

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[Haggis]

Details announced today of the pilot buyback, err, compensated confiscation (TM) program:

Opens today in NS.
Only 200 firearms to be collected to test viability of the system.
Dedicated contact centre.
Goes live nationally later this fall.
Eligible owners will be contacted by mail/email during the "declaration period".
Voluntary participation, but anyone who does not participate in this scheme will either have to deactivate their banned firearms, legally export them or turn them in to police without compensation before the end of the amnesty period. (Amnesty currently ends on 2025.10.30, no extension announced yet.)
Government "assessing an appropriate time to extend the amnesty".
Program re-opening for business to capture those firearms banned in December 2024 and March 2025 which wer not part of the original program.
Anyone who does not comply could be subject to criminal liability for illegal possession of a prohibited firearm.

 

[Fishbone Jones]

Details announced today of the pilot buyback, err, compensated confiscation (TM) program:

Opens today in NS.
Only 200 firearms to be collected to test viability of the system.
Dedicated contact centre.
Goes live nationally later this fall.
Eligible owners will be contacted by mail/email during the "declaration period".
Voluntary participation, but anyone who does not participate in this scheme will either have to deactivate their banned firearms, legally export them or turn them in to police without compensation before the end of the amnesty period. (Amnesty currently ends on 2025.10.30, no extension announced yet.)
Government "assessing an appropriate time to extend the amnesty".
Program re-opening for business to capture those firearms banned in December 2024 and March 2025 which wer not part of the original program.
Anyone who does not comply could be subject to criminal liability for illegal possession of a prohibited firearm.

All they're going to do is make criminals out of thousands of Canadians.

 

[Halifax Tar]

All they're going to do is make criminals out of thousands of Canadians.

Yup.

 

[Harris]

So I see lots of details now about "Scary Rifles". What about "Scary Pistols"?

 

[Brad Sallows]

How many of you CPC voters would vote liberal if the only thing he did differently from what he is doing is make gun ownership easier?

That probably is a significant single-issue voter motivator (attractor/killer). But on that file, he'd have to somehow set it back to the way it was decades ago and create some kind of nigh-irrevocable structures that couldn't be overturned by a future LPC or LPC/NDP government.

 

[Jarnhamar]

Liberal voters need to pay gun owners repatriations.

 

[Colin Parkinson]

So I see lots of details now about "Scary Rifles". What about "Scary Pistols"?

Mauser action sniper rifles, no one needs a "Weapon of war to hunt"

 

[KevinB]

Mauser action sniper rifles, no one needs a "Weapon of war to hunt"

At the end of the day, most “gun control” groups won’t be happy unless all civilian ownership of firearms is banned.

They also fail to see that most countries with total firearm bans end up abusing their citizens ASAP as no effective means of resistance is allowed.

 

[Brad Sallows]

Some people fondly "remember" the time when peasants were forbidden weapons, or certain classes of weapons. Otherwise, they were hard to pillage.

 

[QV]

At the end of the day, most “gun control” groups won’t be happy unless all civilian ownership of firearms is banned.

They also fail to see that most countries with total firearm bans end up abusing their citizens ASAP as no effective means of resistance is allowed.

"a gun behind every blade of grass" I think was something the Japanese considered when contemplating invading mainland USA... I think it goes like that. So it's not just your own government seeing the strength vs weakness.

 

[Jarnhamar]

Some people fondly "remember" the time when peasants were forbidden weapons, or certain classes of weapons. Otherwise, they were hard to pillage.

I wonder how many times someones house needs broken into before they're willing to buy a $800 Semi-Auto for $5000

 

[KevinB]

I wonder how many times someones house needs broken into before they're willing to buy a $800 Semi-Auto for $5000

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Their Glock 19 model is fantastic (I got 8 of them back when President Biden was elected).

 

[RangerRay]

Unfortunately, Quebec is more important to the Liberals’ coalition than gun owners.

 

[Halifax Tar]

Ian Runkle has a great video on this. And he is able to bring his lawyer speak down for us serfs.

 

[Furniture]

I could like every single other aspect of the LPC platform but the LPC gun control policy is a poison pill I am unwilling to swallow.

100% in agreement.

The LPC has made it clear that it views all legal firearms owners as murders/criminals in waiting. I won't vote for people who think of me that way.

 

[Halifax Tar]

100% in agreement.

The LPC has made it clear that it views all legal firearms owners as murders/criminals in waiting. I won't vote for people who think of me that way.

Maybe it's time to devolve firearms down to the provincial level, I say that knowing that my Con (Soft LP) NS Gov would probably do what what ever Ont does anyways.

 

[Brad Sallows]

Their Glock 19 model is fantastic (I got 8 of them back when President Biden was elected).

Win a bunch of election bets?

 

[OldSolduer]

At the end of the day, most “gun control” groups won’t be happy unless all civilian ownership of firearms is banned.

They also fail to see that most countries with total firearm bans end up abusing their citizens ASAP as no effective means of resistance is allowed.

And we Canadians wonder why the US citizenry hold their Second Amendment rights so dearly. America is the product of a tyrannical government - an oafish British king - and the Founding Fathers basically said the government needs to be afraid of the people, not the other way round.

Australia has pretty much banned private ownership - to what extent I don't know.

 

[KevinB]

And we Canadians wonder why the US citizenry hold their Second Amendment rights so dearly. America is the product of a tyrannical government - an oafish British king - and the Founding Fathers basically said the government needs to be afraid of the people, not the other way round.

110%.

Australia has pretty much banned private ownership - to what extent I don't know.

Australia banned semi automatic rifles and pistols. However, they ended up walking back a lot of the semiauto bans, as they found the farmers needed them to control both the kangaroo and other rodent populations. So you now need a permit for a semi auto but from some friends in Australia, they aren’t really that hard to get if you don’t live in an urban area.

Compliance also in Australia seemed a little low, but they allowed people to basically remove the gas tube from AR15 style rifles to make them bolt actions. If theoretically, the gas tube hole was supposed to be plugged. But I know a bunch of people that never did that, and their firearm was still deemed in compliance.
That might be because the local law-enforcement was friendly to them.

It was also interesting as Australia as their government had no problem, giving me a permit to drive all over Australia with a ton of ammo and machine guns and suppressors and things like that.