The Great Gun Control Debate- 2.0

[Eaglelord17]

We never have the right to own firearms. I stand to be corrected.

That is debatable. Clearly it is acknowledged to some degree thanks to aboriginal treaties (right to hunt, etc.). The English Bill of Rights 1689 also to some degree applies to Canada and that included the right to be armed.

Mind you the supreme court ruled against this argument, that being said I still think a valid legal argument can be made on pre-1867 rights in Canada.

Personally I believe that the right to own firearms isn’t itself a right, rather the right to self defence is, or life, liberty, and security of the person. I also believe in property rights even though the government tries arguing that doesn’t exist, again I would consider it a pre-1867 right. Owning firearms I would consider a extension those rights.

 

[suffolkowner]

That is debatable. Clearly it is acknowledged to some degree thanks to aboriginal treaties (right to hunt, etc.). The English Bill of Rights 1689 also to some degree applies to Canada and that included the right to be armed.

Mind you the supreme court ruled against this argument, that being said I still think a valid legal argument can be made on pre-1867 rights in Canada.

Personally I believe that the right to own firearms isn’t itself a right, rather the right to self defence is, or life, liberty, and security of the person. I also believe in property rights even though the government tries arguing that doesn’t exist, again I would consider it a pre-1867 right. Owning firearms I would consider a extension those rights.

Property rights in the Bill of Rights?
If we dont have property rights, can i have my house taken? My ???

 

[Cloud Cover]

Property rights in the Bill of Rights?
If we dont have property rights, can i have my house taken? My ???

Yes

 

[KevinB]

There where Firearms Rights in the BNA and earlier provisions.

PET ensured those where written out when the Constitution was ‘repatriated’.

 

[Cloud Cover]

There where Firearms Rights in the BNA and earlier provisions.

PET ensured those where written out when the Constitution was ‘repatriated’.

You know, settling Western Canada was a lot tougher and just as violent (but on a smaller scale) than the US.
When I look at historical pictures of the Okanagan as it was a cattle staging area for the northern gold rush area, EVERYBODY was packing heat. How that never made it into preserved cultural right when the West entered confederation is baffling to me. Even ranchibg pictures right up into the 1950’s there were Garands and Tommy guns hanging around. I’d like to drag the bottom of some these lakes, but meth lab kit is likely piled over top of the good stuff.

 

[OldSolduer]

We do not have the right to "keep and bear arms" as the USA does.

 

[Eaglelord17]

Property rights in the Bill of Rights?
If we dont have property rights, can i have my house taken? My ???

Look up civil forfeiture laws, the abuse of them is disgusting. Simple example being Bruce Montague, a man who fought our stupid firearms laws and lost.

 

[KevinB]

We do not have the right to "keep and bear arms" as the USA does.

You basically used to…