the hostages

[Glorified Ape]

OK I'll bite......She made an accusation the the Govt. dropped the ball on the Mexico murders and then ran without telling anyone how she reached that conclusion.......thats TROLLING pure and simple.

I seem to recall numerous instances of people making endless criticisms of the government, as often as not without providing meticulous evidence as to why. I don't see why it's suddenly a problem now that a Conservative government is in power. Heck, government-bashing is practically the official sport of Army.ca (and often with good cause).

That being said, Pike really does seem to be a shameless, self-promoting troll given his/her spamming of the boards with nothing but politically charged "teasers" for his/her website.

 

[George Wallace]

She has identified herself as a she.  No more second guessing involved there.

 

[FastEddy]

No, I stand by what I said, I wouldn't care if it was Harper, Martin,Layton or the re-incarnate of Trudeau, there is not a whole lot the Govt. can do when it occurs in a foriegn country and the locals won't ask for help. We know what was more important to the local forces there but, and I noticed you didn't answer, what would YOU have done in our Govts. place?

...and again, the "gang mentality" [ your words] was probably cause the "troll" was too obvious to miss, even if one tried.
Hey, Ithink it would have been a good post if she had ended it with any ideas, good or bad, on how it should have been handled by the Govt.................heading back to the pond now.....

Yes I agree with you that the PM most certainly could not have come on frothing at the mouth.  But his initial  response seemed totally disinterested and (why am I having to deal with this) left me cold. He could have hinted that he hopped that Travel Restrictions might not have to be considered etc..

Only after the media attention, it then seemed to prod the Government into action and the steps to be taken. If you noticed it was then the Mexican Authorities started to change their tune.

I'm sure you are aware of the great problems the U.S is having along the Mexican Borderand the corruption and criminal factions that has infiltrated their Police Departments.

Since when are we beholding to Mexico. It seems quite possible that without the Tourist Trade from North America and the Outsizing of our Companies, they'd be in one hell of a fix. I for one am sick and tired of hearing about our Citizens be Murdered, Raped, Abducted and Missing in these places.

As for "Pike"s alledged behavior and Trolling I would appreciate if you would point out such Threads and Posts so I may judge for myself. However, if all of the out-rage is well founded, why hasn't she been sanctioned ?.

 

[FastEddy]

:rofl:

Hooo.  Good one.  If Pike signs up for the CF, I will create a new identity for myself, hide all my military training, take a leave of absence from WPS and make sure I get on whatever basic or RESO she ended up on just to watch the catastrophe in progress.  I would also create a daily blog, maybe call it "Socialist Thunder-in Tracker" for the rest of you to enjoy.  Of course, it would probably be two entries: 
Day 1.  Pike Issued kit.  Refuses to carry it until someone can confirm that the Canadian Cadpat is not an endangered indigenous species.
Day 2.  Discovers no Starbucks in mess. Quits.

And if she got rammed through the officer system, because maybe one of her parents is an MP or a senior officer, then we should all know about that and get out accordingly.

Amazingly clever, but don't you mean "Tim Hortons", you do know they are the favourite of the CF's

 

[zipperhead_cop]

Amazingly clever, but don't you mean "Tim Hortons", you do know they are the favourite of the CF's

Tim's is for normal people.  Starbucks is for self affected Euro-wanna-be's who want the prestige of walking around with a $7.00 caffinated beverage.  (that being said, when I'm abroad I drink their swill.  Still better than Dunkin Donuts.  Always fun to ask "yeah, I need a large coffee" and you get that "and...." look from the kid).

 

[SHELLDRAKE!!]

Anyway, back on topic........Does anyone else find it interesting that the "Christian Peace Makers" seem to be insinuating that they are the only ones there that want to help.

Im not 100% sure on this but I don't think there is a large portion of "insurgents" out there that would kidnap a foreigner and then two miles down the road stop the car and say "Oh, your not here to give me a hard time........sorry about the inconvenience.... have a nice day".

IMHO their current objection is any foreigner in their country, and then if everyone left, they would have yet another reason to kill indescriminately.

Anyone who decides to wander into a warzone thinking their intentions will keep them safe is begging for trouble.

 

[FastEddy]

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As for "Pike"s alledged behavior and Trolling I would appreciate if you would point out such Threads and Posts so I may judge for myself. However, if all of the out-rage is well founded, why hasn't she been sanctioned ?.

Okay Bruce and et al, I apologize for only basing my assumptions on "Pike"s last seemingly harmless post, but staying up all night backtracking her threads and posts. It has become clear why the immense hostility.

Basically, "Why are we in Afghanistan" (all 13 pages), she sure threw a grenade into that one.

However, I am a firm believer that every cloud has a silver lining. I was quite impressed with all of the excellent posts in that thread.

I also visited and peeked into a few of the web sites, its a pity that our intellectual youth are subjected to what almost amounts to blatant propaganda.

Hopefully "Pike" has had an awakening or at least sees reality without the influence that certain groups tend to preach.

Cheers.

 

[FastEddy]

Anyway, back on topic........Does anyone else find it interesting that the "Christian Peace Makers" seem to be insinuating that they are the only ones there that want to help.

Im not 100% sure on this but I don't think there is a large portion of "insurgents" out there that would kidnap a foreigner and then two miles down the road stop the car and say "Oh, your not here to give me a hard time........sorry about the inconvenience.... have a nice day".

IMHO their current objection is any foreigner in their country, and then if everyone left, they would have yet another reason to kill indescriminately.

Anyone who decides to wander into a warzone thinking their intentions will keep them safe is begging for trouble.

That is a very good question, I've never really understood what they do or why they are there.

Now the Red Cross or Doctors without Boarders or Large Relief Groups, but even those are still in harms way.

Maybe their Foundations or HQ's could explain what in Hell's name they expect to accomplish ?.

Cheers.

 

[GO!!!]

The Christian Peacemakers are just as foolish as the Islamic zealots that they indirectly support.

They went into a dangerous situation, and did not act to protect their own lives - a suicide as far as I'm concerned.

The Canadian goevernment has advised Canadians to stay out of Iraq for some time now. I fail to see why our tax dollars and diplomatic effort should be expended to rescue people who hold their own lives of so little importance.

Now we see them on national television bashing the US policy of imprisoning insurgents - in a cynical attempt to keep their own cause in the news.

Perhaps once they are killed, they will have served the higher cause - of inspiring others NOT to follow in their footsteps.

 

[Franko]

While the idea of them going into a war-ravaged country and helping the civilians is a noble one....

They take their chances and their own life is in the balance when they arrive into a theater such as Iraq or Afghanistan.

If they become hostages....it is because of their own actions....period.

Now onto the reality of it all....all hostages taken and the demands were not met....the hostages died.

The POTUS will not withdraw his troops nor release any prisoners...nor will any ally.

Hate to say it but they're as good as dead.

Regards