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An interesting encapsulation of Canada in Kandahar

The Long Way Home Is Sometimes The Better Way
Monday, January 21, 2008
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The global shock of 9/11 created broad international concern at the time that no country could remain immune to similar attacks from terrorist groups in the future; a consensus rapidly emerged that joint international action was required to eliminate such groups and their sanctuaries wherever they werel ocated. President George W. Bush unambiguously demanded that all countries align themselves as “either with the U.S. or against it” in the struggle. Canada initially responded to the challenge by mobilizing air and naval forces and then secretly sent Joint Task Force Two (JTF2) troops to Afghanistan in late 2001. A larger contingent of 750 Canadian soldiers was then sent to Kandahar in February 2002 for a period of six months. Afghanistan became a symbolically key state in the broader effort to deter radical Islamic jihadism, particularly given its past role as host to al-Qa’ida under the Taliban.
Seems like such a long time ago now. Almost a lifetime, in some ways. Funny how, as I recall, not too many had much trouble with the whole idea of the US invading Afghanistan to rout out the Taliban after 9/11. And I don't recall many, if any, having any problem with the idea of Canadian troops deploying to Afghanistan to do our part. Admittedly, Iraq was always a different story. But not Afghanistan.

So where are we now, over six years later and with 2, 500 Canadian soldiers in country? Depending on who you want to believe, and how recently they were conducted, polls would tell us that anywhere from 50%to 60% of Canadians feel that our troops should be brought home as soon as possible. And why is that? Well, it might have something to do with the 78 young men and women that have been killed in a country so far away from home. Might. Yeah, right. Just might.

Canada took responsibility for Kandahar province after other NATO member countries volunteered to deploy to more secure provinces in 2004. In 2005, Canadian Forces moved to Kandahar, taking over an American Provincial Reconstruction Team (PRT), one of 24 PRTs now active in the country. The current Canadian mission consists of 2,500 troops in Kandahar; 30 CF personnel in Kabul, either working on specific security areas as liaison or embedded within a joint task force; and a 15 member strategic advisory team of military planners assisting the Afghan government. The deployment has been renewed until February 2009.

Canada has supported other stabilization and peacebuilding initiatives, notably in the area of demobilization, disarmament, and reintegration of ex-combatants (DDR). Canada supported the decommissioning of militia forces, the collection and storage of 12,000weapons, the destruction of ammunition stockpiles, de-mining, and landmine education.

Canadian involvement in Afghanistan first hit Canadian television screens in a major way when the CF moved to Kandahar to take on an active combat role in the more volatile and unstable south; they rapidly became the object of regular Taliban attacks, and CF began to sustain the heaviest casualties of any NATO participant in per capita terms.
Her Majesty's Loyal Opposition, the Liberals, believes that Canada should be looking at aid projects and other non-combat roles in Afghanistan when its current commitment expires in February, 2009, just about one year from now. Which is a bit of a backpedal from what they were saying a year or so ago actually, when they seemed to more strongly agree with the NDP position. Which has basically been, get the hell of out of Afghanistan. Now. And as I said, unfortunately, it appears that many Canadians agree with them.

Personally, I see what we, along with the other members of the NATO, are doing in Afghanistan as critically important. For a variety of reasons. For one thing, if we leave to early and let the Taliban regain their foothold, then what really have we accomplished at all in being there for six years? And wouldn't that mean, really, that all of our soldiers to say nothing of the countless number of Afghans themselves, have died in vain? Even looking at it from a purely 'selfish' point of view, have we made the world any safer for ourselves here in Canada?

There's also the fact that we supported the US actions in going into that country and 'bombing it back to the stone age', to borrow the popular phrase at the time. The country, the people for whom that is home, deserve to have some form of order restored to their lives. They also deserve to have what we, as an international community, promised them ... freedom, education for women and girls, a better life. Will we cut and run before we keep our promise?

Nothing saddens and distresses me more than hearing about the death of another Canadian soldier. It literally twists in my gut. But I don't see the answer, the solution, to our losses as being as simple as packing up and leaving. I know that's not what our men and women on the ground in Afghanistan believe. Nor is it what I believe. We will honour their deaths, their ultimate sacrifice only by finishing what we started. By keeping our promise to the Afghans, our allies and ourselves.

But as we draw closer and closer to another election, an election which is likely to turn in large part on the decision of what to do when our current mission in Afghanistan is complete, I become more and more troubled. With the US now planning to send 3,000 Marines to Afghanistan, I am hopeful that if we stay the course, we will accomplish our goal. I fear however that that situation ma well play out differently without the assistance of Canada.

And what exactly was up with US Defence Secretary Gates' recent comments as to the [in]effectiveness of NATO forces in the south of the country? Sure, he tried to back pedal:

[Gates] said "allied forces from the United Kingdom, Canada, the Netherlands, Australia, Denmark and other nations have stepped up to the plate and are playing a significant and powerful role in Afghanistan."

"They have rolled back the Taliban from previous strongholds in the south. They are taking the fight to the enemy in some of the most gruelling conditions imaginable," Gates said.

"As a result of the valour and sacrifice of these allies, the Taliban have suffered significant losses and no longer hold real estate of any consequence."

Gates noted that sniping among allies has happened in previous conflicts, but he pointed out: "Our allies, including the Canadians, the British, the Dutch, the Australians and others, are suffering losses as they demonstrate valour and skill in combat."


Nice try, but when he states that his remarks were not directed at Canadians, the Brits, the Dutch or the Australians, you have to wonder ... who were they directed at? And that statement above, by the way, came only after a statement from Canada's Minister of Defence, Peter MacKay, that in a private phone call Gates had assured him he did not mean to malign Canadian troops in any way was refuted hours later by a Pentagon spokesman stating that Gates’ comments were directed at all NATO allies — and yes, that included Canada.

I thought that Scott Taylor's column today made some interesting points. He posits that Gates, being well aware of the vast regional ethnic diversity of Afghanistan, compared apples to oranges (the situation in the east of Afghanistan with the situation in the south, where Canadian troops are deployed) in an effort to placate a domestic U.S. audience. An audience of war-weary Americans who wonder why 3,200 additional Marines are now being deployed to Afghanistan to fight a war they were told was won in November 2001.

At first, the Pentagon told us it was Pakistan’s fault that the insurgency in Kandahar was being rekindled; now Gates is telling Americans that it’s actually NATO’s fault for not being aggressive enough.

Canadian officers, familiar with the way in which the fiasco in Kandahar evolved, have called Gate’s comments the "height of hypocrisy." Even American Special Forces soldiers who participated in the battles that cleared the Taliban from Kandahar in early 2002 admit that the U.S. strategy was flawed from the outset.

When I visited Kabul last January, I was introduced to a U.S. Navy SEAL who had been assigned as an adviser to the Afghan Northern Alliance. When he learned that I was a Canadian, he had insisted on paying for my drinks. "We sold you guys a bucket of crap down in Kandahar, and for that I apologize," he said.

The SEAL explained that after the Taliban were chased out of the region, the U.S. left just one battalion stationed at the Kandahar airfield and fewer than 500 soldiers in all of Helmand province. The Pentagon had been completely focused on the invasion of Iraq and, as a result, from 2002 to 2005, the once scattered Taliban were able to regroup and rearm.

Supplies and recruits came in from the Pakistani side of Pashtunistan, but the small U.S. garrison in Kandahar was only concerned with self-protection at the airfield itself. Thus, when Canada accepted the change of location from Kabul to Kandahar, the Americans knew that the Canadians were walking into a veritable hornet’s nest of insurgents.

Gates’ comments in the L.A. Times inverted this sequence of events and made it sound like everything had been going swimmingly until NATO took over and made a bollocks of things.
I don't necessarily agree with all of Taylor's opinions on Afghanistan and Canada's role there but I must say that biting the hand that, in this case, helps to feed you, probably wasn't Gates' smartest political move. In that, if nothing else, in addition to whatever effect his words might have in other NATO countries, he may have well made Canada's up-hill battle an even steeper climb.
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My dad always taught me to never give up, to never curl up and quit, to never back down, to always finish the job and to give everything i possibly could to the task at hand until the the task has been met or exceeded. My grandpa always told me those traits will make you successful in life.

I will always live by those words, and with that being said, i will never understand the 50-60% of people who want our troops out of Afghanistan.

Why tuck tail and run now, when the job is only half finished? why disgrace every soldier who gave his/her life up for the task at hand by not finishing it? why disgrace every soldier who spent time there working so hard to accomplish something, to just give it up?
 
mckee19 said:
i will never understand the 50-60% of people who want our troops out of Afghanistan.
It is probably why the media portrays the military as the big bad green machine, and people think that we are over there just killing, which is wrong in many ways. For instance, Canadians have helped keep villages and towns safe, helped make new hospitals, schools, houses, and more. We have saved more lives then we have taken, or have lost ourselves.

This is not the right attitude at all. Just because something gets a little tough, people want to quit. Sure, the death of a soldier is a bad thing, but one must remember that these soldiers that we lost do not die in vain at all. They will be remembered in the hearts and minds of their comrades, family, friends, fellow country men, and even the people of Afghanistan.

Not only this, but many people do not know much about out job in Afghanistan, or the military in general. I find myself lucky that I know as much as I do, because I know the truth and I do tell people the truth when they are wrong. One day I will be proud to dawn a military uniform, and if I could, serve in Afghanistan, with my fellow Canadians doing what we know is right, and what we are good at.


God Bless Canada and our Troops :cdnsalute:
 
Picking up from Mike Baker's wise words, another element in the "public expectation" mix is the element of "we need solutions NOW".  Some of that may be fed by:
- media-driven expectations (gee, this was on the news last week, and they still don't have a solution?);
- people being used to seeing things happen at the speed of light (so why can't everything happen this quickly?);
- a general lack of patience (hard to measure day-by-day a job that, realistically, will take many years), and
- the mismatch between the timeline of the solution (lotsa years/a generation or two) and the timeline of politicians wanting to look like the problem is solved (one mandate, even shorter in a minority situation).

Yes, it IS tough losing a service member in battle, but if society wants government to achieve worthwhile goals in a completely risk-free fashion, better not send any firefighters into buildings that are on fire, or cops into REALLY nasty places or situations - they may get hurt or killed.
 
milnewstbay said:
- media-driven expectations (gee, this was on the news last week, and they still don't have a solution?);
- people being used to seeing things happen at the speed of light (so why can't everything happen this quickly?);
- a general lack of patience (hard to measure day-by-day a job that, realistically, will take many years), and
- the mismatch between the timeline of the solution (lotsa years/a generation or two) and the timeline of politicians wanting to look like the problem is solved (one mandate, even shorter in a minority situation).

These are valid examples of people's expectations, but I think the biggest wrench in the works is the stupid politicians, bureaucrats and even spokesmen for the CF spouting off rhetoric about this and that and "we've got them on the run" mentality statements.

This crap creates the people's and MSM's expectations, so when they don't get realized in the way they were expressed, everybody is suddenly up in arms about goals not being met.
 
It really disgusts me to have to ride into town each weekend here in Annapolis Royal (well, not lately since we've had alot of storms and freezing weather hehe) but there's a lot of old women with, I swear, mentally deficient men, who hold these retarded signs saying great slogans such as :

"Get Canada Out of Iraq!"
"Bring our men, women and children home!"
"Leave the people of Afgahnistan to their freedom!"
"No more murdering for oil"
"The military is wrong, let the people have a choice"


All such great, well informed people touting their complete garbage on the main intersection of our small town of 500ish. These people have really no clue about the machine of the military, they just want their political choice for the voting year to get put in locally so he can run his mouth.

I can understand people wanting our soldiers to return home, but in my mind they signed up to military to actually protect our rights and hte rights of others. Let them make the decisions, they can leave the Forces if they desire, and they ARE grown ups making their own decisions.

I really believe that the people that have no educated opinion are insulting those brave men and women who serve the Forces in order to maintain peace and freedom.
 
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