The RCAF's Next Generation Fighter (CF-188 Replacement)

[Jarnhamar]

I can find you stationary gear that requires micron tolerances because while it doesn't leave the foundations on which it is bolted it rotates a thousands if rpms.

I believe you. But could your fancy gear also maintain tolerances under extreme G-forces and temperature swings from –50C to +150C?

Wasn’t this the case when the decision to start ramping up production on the AOPS was made?
We went around the world finding the right people.
We trained the people we had.
We ‘dumbed down’ the initial process and ramp up.
We stretched out the timelines.
And we built the first AOPS.

From initial concept to first delivery it took 13 years. Not sure if that's good or bad though?

Anyone in here care to tell everyone how many centimetres the bow piece was off from the centre piece when they first tried to mate them together.

Is that normal for boats? I would think that reinforces the criticism that the modules were nowhere near acceptable tolerances when they were brought together. But I'm closer to being a pilot than a ship captain.

 

[Czech_pivo]

I believe you. But could your fancy gear also maintain tolerances under extreme G-forces and temperature swings from –50C to +150C?


From initial concept to first delivery it took 13 years. Not sure if that's good or bad though?


Is that normal for boats? I would think that reinforces the criticism that the modules were nowhere near acceptable tolerances when they were brought together. But I'm closer to being a pilot than a ship captain.

The point being on the first AOPS was that the quality control was off and over time it got substantially better.

 

[MilEME09]

Some of us missed an important detail? SAAB didnt say 10,000 manufacturing jobs, they said 10,000 manufacturing, and R&D. Having an R&D division in canada suggests a much more long term investment.

 

[Jarnhamar]

The point being on the first AOPS was that the quality control was off and over time it got substantially better.

Oh man, I'm reading about it now. This was just reported on in 2024, hoping this stuff is fixed.

• anchors that aren’t effective
• a refueling system that’s too heavy to use
• areas on the vessels that are leaking
• can’t perform emergency towing as was required in the original contract
• some cranes on the vessels are inoperable
• structural issues are also hindering the operation of Cyclone helicopters
• supplier of satellite communications systems on the vessels no longer has the security clearance to provide the navy with parts