The RCAF's Next Generation Fighter (CF-188 Replacement)

[Kirkhill]

Wikipedia says this about the light fighter version (F-7)

I can't find anything on either the Boeing or Saab T-7A websites that discuss an actual developed light fighter version.

Also, I don't see any indication that the T-7A is AAR capable which would be a huge impediment to conducting an operational role in Canada.

That being said, the general concept of a combined FLIT/Light Fighter platform (whoever's platform it is) is an interesting one if it can really fulfill both roles.

Note also the F/T-7X variant.

But I take the point about there being other options and note that general concept of a two tier fleet isn't bad.

 

[ytz]

Note also the F/T-7X variant.

But I take the point about there being other options and note that general concept of a rwo tier fleet isn't bad.

This is the main point. Lot more options in this space. And we can demand way more. On customization. On local manufacturing. Etc.

And when you get to something like FA-50 that can sling Meteors, late generation AMRAAMs and Sidewinders, like how much do you need a Gripen at what point? This is just fine for homeland defence.

 

[Kirkhill]

This is the main point. Lot more options in this space. And we can demand way more. On customization. On local manufacturing. Etc.

And when you get to something like FA-50 that can sling Meteors, late generation AMRAAMs and Sidewinders, like how much do you need a Gripen at what point? This is just fine for homeland defence.

Agreed.

 

[childs56]

And sometimes correct. Or at least you're not showing any signs of learning from the blue suiters you interact with.

Your opinion.

Different military.

One that works and understand that not all things require a full time person to conduct operations. We could learn a lot from them. Similar training program, similar aircraft (for the new f35). If it works for them then maybe we should look at how to adopt what actually works instead of what continues to fail.

Different force structure. Different training systems.

See above

And also vastly different pool.

They have a lager pool, not much different.

I already explained the difference here earlier. And you're ignoring it.

your opinion.

No they aren't.

Commercial Pilots don't work out,

The 10-15 hrs a week I stated is for flying proficiency.

How many hours do our Fighter Pilots currently get a week flying? How many hours does a Commercial pilot get flying their work plane? Flying planning is similar. I ask how many hours does a ANG Fighter Pilot get in a week. How do they do it when they are working another job? Just wondering, you seem to think it is not possible. Yet hundreds do in the US.

Air Canada doesn't require their pilots to pass a PT test every year.

They do pass physicals.

Let alone be fit enough to pull Gs regularly.

You never seen a 737 take off from a short strip......

And WestJet doesn't require guys to spend hours on a task trainer honing EW skills.

But they do require simulator time. Again those skills can be learned and don't have to be 100% in the beginning. Road blocks in the way is all I have heard from the Military and its planners/ most of my life. Yet they keep failing on the same points and it gets worse as the years go by. Time to change or completely fail

You mean the guys who are mostly all ex reg force, fly in a two man cockpit and might not maintain full currency to say be the AC?

Gee I wonder why that's not a model that can simply be slapped on to the world of single seat high performance flying?

Again it is by design of the old guard, that wont change to attract new members. Then complain they don't have the staff. I think they use to refer to the Reserve and Fighter group as the Flying club.

We don't have a problem getting people through the door who want to be pilots.

I am sure we do.

We have a problem graduating enough of them and then retaining them.

What's the solution to Recruit, train and retain?

It's always a conspiracy when called out for ignorance.

lol not at all. It isnt a conspiracy if its true. That is something many have learned over the past 11 or so years very well.

 

[ytz]

Again it is by design of the old guard,

lol not at all. It isnt a conspiracy if its true. That is something many have learned over the past 11 or so years very well.

Exact same mindset as all the Wikipedia experts pushing the Gripen on us. Few mins on Wiki and they know better than all the folks who spent their career doing this.

Let me guess. You also knew more than the doctors during COVID?

 

[ytz]

They do pass physicals.

You comparing a civil physical to a PT test now?

 

[ytz]

How many hours do our Fighter Pilots currently get a week flying? How many hours does a Commercial pilot get flying their work plane? Flying planning is similar. I ask how many hours does a ANG Fighter Pilot get in a week. How do they do it when they are working another job? Just wondering, you seem to think it is not possible. Yet hundreds do in the US.

Already asked and answered. You want to spam walls of text, you can use that time to go back and read.

 

[childs56]

Exact same mindset as all the Wikipedia experts pushing the Gripen on us. Few mins on Wiki and they know better than all the folks who spent their career doing this.

I am more a fan of F15s with F35s. But we don't have any will for that. We will take F35s hopefully with what ever they come up with.
But the Griphen can be used for lower taskings if we do buy them. Hope that we get other spin offs from that project.

Let me guess. You also knew more than the doctors during COVID?

LOL,
Good thing those covid shots and masks worked so well ehh.

 

[childs56]

You comparing a civil physical to a PT test now?

The CF medicals for Pilots is pretty intense, have you seen how much popcorn and booze our pilots consume? LOL.....