The RCAF's Next Generation Fighter (CF-188 Replacement)

[Czech_pivo]

Pretty sure we are sticking with a significant numbers of F-35

MAS and Lockheed Martin Announce F-35 Sustainment Partnership in Quebec

Press Release + Noah Note

www.truenorthstrategicreview.ca

Yes, 40, so far.

 

[calculus]

Yes, 40, so far.

I think it's 30 - 16 initial order, plus long-lead items ordered for a further 14.

 

[armrdsoul77]

Do we know how many A.V. Roe Canada Saab Arrow II Gripens yet?

 

[ArmyRick]

Do we know how many A.V. Roe Canada Saab Arrow II Gripens yet?

Sarcasm, yes?

 

[armrdsoul77]

Sarcasm, yes?

If we could manufacture some of the parts in Canada for our domestically assembled fleet (including parts for other operators),get technology transfer/sharing that could be leveraged into partnering on a 6th generation manned/unmanned fighter/air combat system,buy enough airframes to have more frequent deployments to FOL's I think the Gripen could be used in the NORAD role. The per unit cost would obviously be higher(maybe it would be offset by the lower operating costs?).I don't think we have enough time before we need to start receiving airframes and there is an aircrew/technician shortage for the current single-type fighter fleet.

 

[ArmyRick]

If we could manufacture some of the parts in Canada for our domestically assembled fleet (including parts for other operators),get technology transfer/sharing that could be leveraged into partnering on a 6th generation manned/unmanned fighter/air combat system,buy enough airframes to have more frequent deployments to FOL's I think the Gripen could be used in the NORAD role. The per unit cost would obviously be higher(maybe it would be offset by the lower operating costs?).I don't think we have enough time before we need to start receiving airframes and there is an aircrew/technician shortage for the current single-type fighter fleet.

Have you been following the general opinion here? Gripen is way out of its league vs F35, to which we are already committed to. And we manufacture parts for it NOW.

 

[armrdsoul77]

Have you been following the general opinion here? Gripen is way out of its league vs F35, to which we are already committed to. And we manufacture parts for it NOW.

As important as it is to conform to general opinion I think the Gripen would be fine for use in the NORAD role but would only make sense under the conditions I listed above.We can continue to build parts for the F35(ours and others).

 

[ArmyRick]

As important as it is to conform to general opinion I think the Gripen would be fine for use in the NORAD role but would only make sense under the conditions I listed above.We can continue to build parts for the F35(ours and others).

OK, you have your views and I suspect its TDS based. There is a whole lot here and a LONG list of very valid reasons why its F35 over Gripen by a long mile.

Gripen shouldn't even be a consideration.

 

[armrdsoul77]

OK, you have your views and I suspect its TDS based. There is a whole lot here and a LONG list of very valid reasons why its F35 over Gripen by a long mile.

Gripen shouldn't even be a consideration.

What's tds?

 

[ArmyRick]

What's tds?

Trump Derangement Syndrome. Many people are so desperate to not buy American products that they think we should be other products of sub-par quality and capability.

Carney didn't help things last spring when he put the F35 order "under review" but is now quietly buying them.

I hope thats not your motivation for rooting for the 1988 era Gripen?

 

[armrdsoul77]

Trump Derangement Syndrome

Sarcasm,yes?

 

[ArmyRick]

Sarcasm,yes?

Good luck convincing me that we should purchase the Gripen over the F35

 

[ArmyRick]

If its a split fleet you suggest then I would like the F35 + F15 EX or F35 + South Korean KF21

The Gripen shouldn't be a consideration. Its OLD. So is the F15 but its a kick ass design and the EX is a rock star