The RCAF's Next Generation Fighter (CF-188 Replacement)

[GR66]

I believe he meant the CCA that goes with the Gripens.

Yes and no I guess. Building a one-off batch of Gripens doesn't make a lot of sense to me. You need something to follow to keep domestic production going and more Gripens after the initial contract don't make sense when other options like GCAP will be coming online.

I've always felt the plan should be to assemble Gripens here and use that time/experience to develop and build a domestic CCA platform that is suited to our vast distances and specific defence requirements. The could be co-developed with Saab but I think it would make more sense for them to be controlled from stealthy F-35's rather then by the Gripens.

 

[Nvlgzr]

I believe he meant the CCA that goes with the Gripens.

I don’t believe SAAB has controlled another aircraft with the Gripen, unlike the F-35 which has controlled a MQ20

 

[Czech_pivo]

Trump looking to sell 48 F35’s to the Saudi’s.

Nuclear tech and now F35’s.

U.S. advances $24 billion F-35 deal to Saudi Arabia as Houthis escalate attacks
Trump administration advances $24.3 billion fighter jet deal to Saudi Arabia as Houthis escalate attacks

 

[brihard]

Trump looking to sell 48 F35’s to the Saudi’s.

Nuclear tech and now F35’s.

U.S. advances $24 billion F-35 deal to Saudi Arabia as Houthis escalate attacks
Trump administration advances $24.3 billion fighter jet deal to Saudi Arabia as Houthis escalate attacks

Selling F-35s to Saudi seems like a really bad idea from a security standpoint.

 

[Good2Golf]

Selling F-35s to Saudi seems like a really bad idea from a security standpoint.

It’s not like five Houthis and a tourist with a bum pack could shoot down an F-35…

 

[Cloud Cover]

Did Trump really just allocate our future F35 production slots to Saudi Arabia or is that just more internet slop? I thought we weren’t ordering any more than 16 at this point.

 

[brihard]

It’s not like five Houthis and a tourist with a bum pack could shoot down an F-35…
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Oh, it makes a ton of sense for Saudi Arabia to purchase F-35s from the U.S. if they can.

It makes very little sense for the U.S. to sell F-35s to Saudi Arabia.

 

[dapaterson]

Oh, it makes a ton of sense for Saudi Arabia to purchase F-35s from the U.S. if they can.

It makes very little sense for the U.S. to sell F-35s to Saudi Arabia.

If you can't trust the state sponsor of the 9/11 attacks, who can you trust?

 

[Czech_pivo]

If you can't trust the state sponsor of the 9/11 attacks, who can you trust?

Just imagine if 17 of the 19 attackers came from Canada…..

 

[Good2Golf]

If you can't trust the state sponsor of the 9/11 attacks, who can you trust?

…as opposed to the training sponsor?

 

[OldSolduer]

Did Trump really just allocate our future F35 production slots to Saudi Arabia or is that just more internet slop? I thought we weren’t ordering any more than 16 at this point.

Who the fck actually knows.

 

[Maxman1]

Did Trump really just allocate our future F35 production slots to Saudi Arabia or is that just more internet slop? I thought we weren’t ordering any more than 16 at this point.

We ordered another 14.

 

[markppcli]

Yes and no I guess. Building a one-off batch of Gripens doesn't make a lot of sense to me. You need something to follow to keep domestic production going and more Gripens after the initial contract don't make sense when other options like GCAP will be coming online.

I've always felt the plan should be to assemble Gripens here and use that time/experience to develop and build a domestic CCA platform that is suited to our vast distances and specific defence requirements. The could be co-developed with Saab but I think it would make more sense for them to be controlled from stealthy F-35's rather then by the Gripens.

Its less the F35s stealth and more its processing power. That said if we bought Gripens tomorrow, production of them in Canada wouldnt have jets rolling off the line until 2034 - so CCA in 2040. I'd like a quicker delivery timeline myself.

 

[Halifax Tar]

Logistics, Logistics, Logistics.

https://twitter.com/x/status/2101089081463832736

For context: a 2023 GAO report found over 1 million F-35 spare parts had gone missing over five years, and the Pentagon couldn't audit the losses because Lockheed holds the data.

 

[Oldgateboatdriver]

There are only about 1400 of those things currently built. To lose one million spare parts in five years and still have enough make it to the final users for the planes to fly, how many god damn spare parts do you need every year to keep those damn things flying ????

 

[Halifax Tar]

There are only about 1400 of those things currently built. To lose one million spare parts in five years and still have enough make it to the final users for the planes to fly, how many god damn spare parts do you need every year to keep those damn things flying ????

Remember spares aren't just wings and engines it's right down to every little widget, nut and bolt that's installed on the plane.

1 F35 is roughly 300k parts + 90k fasteners.

For scale a modern warship is millions of individual items.

 

[Oldgateboatdriver]

I understand that, but how many of those need replacement and how often? Do they have to replace every bolt and nut every time they "open the hood"?

That just looks like huge employment of consumables to me compared to other planes I know of.