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The Threat of Modern Piracy- A Merged Thread

:thread hijack starts:

Anyone notice that the Russian duma has been pushing thru a modification to their constitution - changing limits on the presidency..... moving from 2 consecutive terms of 4 yrs to 2 consecutive terms of 6 yrs.

Some suggestions that Mr Medvedev's days are numbered & Mr Putin will be "crowned" Tsar anyday now......
Might we see some more heavyhanded Russian behavior in the coming months if this happens ???

:thread hijack ends:
 
I don't think they've had a Vladimir the Great yet...  I am just wondering when Putingrad appears
 
Forgive me for not feeling sorry for them for choosing that life.  ::)

Somali pirates not scared off by Royal Navy attack
Criminals aware that odds of interception remain relatively low


David Osler - Friday 14 November 2008

SOMALI pirates are unlikely to reduce attacks on merchant shipping, despite the killing of two — and perhaps three — of their number in a recent shoot-out with the Royal Navy, an expert predicted yesterday.

While pirates are well aware that their activities potentially put their lives on the line, they look at the paucity of naval vessels in the region and calculate that the odds of success remain high, he argued.

Given the risk-reward ratio and the reality that, in Somalia, violence can easily find you even if you don’t set out to find it, piracy still seems a good career move for many young Somali men.

The Royal Navy’s deadly engagement with pirates came earlier this week, during an exchange of fire with a dhow suspected of involvement in an attack on an undetermined vessel off the coast of Yemen. A third man died later in circumstances that remain to be confirmed.

Britain’s Ministry of Defence confirmed that an incident took place on Tuesday, when marines onboard two assault craft launched from HMS Cumberland attempted to intercept the pirate ship, after “various non-forcible methods” to stop it proved unsuccessful.

According to the MoD, the pirates opened fire first and the fatalities occurred after the fire was returned. After that, the Somalis complied in allowing the Royal Navy to board the dhow.

Russia has claimed that its frigate Neustrashimy also took part in the engagement, although the extent of its role in the incident is disputed.

An MoD statement said: “Two foreign nationals, believed to be Somali pirates, were shot and killed in self-defence. A Yemeni national was also found injured and later died, despite receiving emergency treatment from the ship’s doctor.

“It is unclear whether his injuries were as a result of the firefight or a previous incident involving the pirates. As with all shooting incidents, a post-shooting incident investigation is currently being conducted.”

The statement names the merchant ship that had been attacked earlier as Powerful, and describes it as Danish registered. Of the three vessels of that name on government and commercial databases, none is Danish flag, and neither the International Maritime Bureau nor a Royal Navy spokesman could offer any positive identification.

Roger Middleton, author of a recent report on Somalia for the Chatham House foreign affairs think tank, said that despite the casualties, he did not expect pirates to cease or even cut back on attempts to hijack merchant shipping.

“They certainly don’t want to get themselves shot. They know they are outgunned by naval forces in the area, but work on the assumption that the area covered is enormous and they have a pretty good chance of being able to carry out pirate attacks without getting caught. I don’t think it will scare them off,” he said.

Somali pirates come from a poor region in a dangerous country with a lot of fighting, and stand a good chance of getting shot at even if they sit at home without doing anything illegal, he pointed out.

From the pirates’ perspective, weapons and boats are cheap, smuggled petrol can be procured from Yemen, and they can still make big money without being successful every time.

“Things like this [the deaths] will make them a little bit more cautious, hopefully. What it may do is make the sight of a frigate on the horizon just that bit more frightening and make that deterrent even more effective.”

Meanwhile, Islamic insurgents have reportedly seized the strategic Somali port of Merka, leaving the way clear for an assault on the capital, Mogadishu, about 55 miles away. They were able to take the city without firing a shot after government troops fled the night before, residents said. The attack follows similar seizures of the port of Kismayo and other cities.

After being turned out of Mogadishu in December 2006 by Ethiopian troops, the insurgency has retaken much of the territory it was forced to cede at the time.

http://www.lloydslist.com/ll/epaper/ll/pag...No=59801&page=3
 
The pirates' activity level doesn't appear to have been affected much in the last couple of days.



Private guards ward off Somali pirate attack
http://www.lloydslist.com/ll/news/private-guards-ward-off-somali-pirate-attack/20017590589.htm
David Osler - Friday 14 November 2008

BRITISH private security guards have repulsed a Somali pirate attack on an unidentified chemtanker, using equipment billed as the the sonic equivalent of a laser, according to the principle of a company that specialises in such services.

Nick Davis, a former army pilot who launched Anti-Piracy Maritime Security Solutions earlier this year, claims to have three-man teams of ex-special forces personnel currently working on six vessels in the Gulf of Aden, with this engagement marking the first actual clash.

He says he has been inundated with inquiries in recent weeks, and is looking to open offices in Aden and Salalah.

The incident took place just 18 miles off the coast of Yemen, inside the Maritime Security Patrol Area established in August by a coalition of international navies, and over 300 miles north of the Somali coast.

“There was a direct approach at high speed towards our ship. We then activated our procedures. The ship started evasive manoeuvres, all the hoses were on full power. Then we used the magnetic acoustic device,” said Mr Davis.

“They closed to within 500m and then turned away to a ship that was due south of ours by approximately five miles.

“Based on intelligence from our team leader on board, there was intent to attack the vessel and clearly, if no one had been on board, we do not know what the outcome would have been today.”

Other recent victims include Cyprus-flagged but Russian-operated boxship Kapitan Maslov (16,575 gt, built 1998), which was attacked on Thursday afternoon while around 300 nautical miles from the Somali coastline.

The vessel - associated with Fesco and en route from Colombo to Mombasa - was assaulted by pirates using a grenade launcher and automatic weapons from a high-speed launch, causing a fire in the cabin of the third assistant to the master.

The crew were able to localise and extinguish the fire, while the vessel was able to manoeuvre and escape from the pirates. None of the 17 people on board were injured, according to a statement from Russia’s ministry of transport.

China’s official Xinhua news agency also stated on Friday that a Chinese fishing vessel with a multinational crew of 24, named as Tianyu No 8, was seized by Somali pirates.

Reuters added that militants from the Islamic al Shabaab captured a small town on the outskirts of capital Mogadishu, just one mile from an important base occupied by Ethiopian troops sent to reinforce the country’s struggling transitional government.

Al Shabaab has rejected the UN-sponsored deal to establish a power-sharing administration between the government and some moderate opposition figures, and are ignoring a ceasefire request.

* NATO has beefed up its naval anti-terrorist effort in the Mediterranean, after Ukrainian warship URS Ternopil joined the Operation Active Endeavour taskforce at the end of last week. The unit will serve until December 9.
 
Pirates release Japan ship, hijack a second
1 hour ago (Sunday November 16, 2008)

NAIROBI (AFP) — Somali pirates released a Japanese chemical tanker and its crew, but seized another one in the Gulf of Aden, despite the presence of several warships patrolling the area, officials said on Sunday.

They released the Stolt Valor and its crew of 18 Indians, two Filipinos, a Russian and Bangladeshi, said Andrew Mwangura who runs the Kenya chapter of the Seafarers Assistance Programme. The vessel had been seized on September 15.

"The ship was released on Saturday," he told AFP.

An Indian maritime official confirmed the release, said the crew were in good health and the freighter was headed to Mumbai.

"They are safe, they have been released. It will be another 40 hours until they reach the safe zone and another three days for them to reach India," National Union of Indian Seafarers (NUIS) spokesman Sunil Nair told AFP by telephone from Mumbai.

"They should be coming back to Mumbai either by plane or by sea. They are moving towards the nearest port. They are all physically fit."

Seema Goel, whose husband, Prabhat, is captain of the vessel, said she had been contacted by the ship's Japanese owners. The ship would reach India in four to five days, she said.

The ship is registered in Panama to Ocean Carrier Transit, which owns 12 other freighters, although the owner is Japan's Central Marine, officials said.

Nair confirmed that a ransom had been paid. The pirates had demanded payment of 2.5 million dollars but he said he didn't know whether the entire amount had been paid.

NUSI secretary general Abdulgani Y. Serang said a ransom had "definitely" been paid, but he declined to say how much, Press Trust of India news agency reported.

Indian maritime unions had previously complained that the government in New Delhi had failed to secure the ship's release. Its members had threatened to refuse to sail in the pirate-infested waters unless action was taken.

But as the Stolt Valor headed home, Mwangura reported that Somali pirates had seized another vessel, the 20,000-ton Japanese ship, "Chemstar Venus", in another attack the previous day.

"The ship was hijacked on Saturday," about 150 kilometres east of the Gulf of Aden, he added.

The freighter had a crew of 18 Filipinos and five South Koreans, Mwangura added.

South Korea, India and several other nations are considering sending warships to the region, after a number of ships and fishing trawlers from Asia were hijacked and only released after ransoms were paid.

According to the International Maritime Bureau, at least 83 ships have been attacked off Somalia since January, of which 33 were hijacked. Of those, 12 vessels and more than 200 crew were still in the hands of pirates.

Last week, the European Union launched a security operation off the coast of Somalia to combat growing acts of piracy and protect ships carrying aid agency deliveries. It is the EU's first-ever naval mission.

Dubbed Operation Atalanta, the mission, endorsed by the bloc's defence ministers at talks in Brussels, is being led by Britain, with its headquarters in Northwood, near London.

Pirates are well organised in the area where Somalia's northeastern tip juts into the Indian Ocean, preying on a key maritime route leading to the Suez Canal through which an estimated 30 percent of the world's oil transits.

(more at link)

 
Just more information on that 2nd hijacking of a Japanese ship. Perhaps it is is time for the JMSDF and the SDF in general to start taking a more active role in defending Japan's interests- namely its maritime trade- overseas without worrying about article 9 of their Constitution anymore? Didn't their PM Aso recently remake their SDF Ministry back into a Defense Ministry?

Page last updated at 07:22 GMT, Sunday, 16 November 2008

Somali pirates 'seize cargo ship'

South Korean officials say gunmen have hijacked a Japanese cargo ship off the coast of Somalia carrying 23 crew including five South Koreans.

The ship was seized in the Gulf of Aden on Saturday, officials said.


The condition of the crew is not known and it is not clear if the pirates are demanding a ransom.

So far this year, Somali pirates have seized more than 30 vessels, making the shipping lanes through the Gulf of Aden the most dangerous in the world.

A South Korean foreign ministry official said the 23 abducted sailors included Filipinos as well as the five South Koreans.

Last Wednesday, the Russian navy said Russian and British ships had repelled a pirate attack on a Danish ship in waters off Somalia.

Tanker seized

Hours earlier, pirates had seized a Turkish chemical tanker off the coast of Yemen, along with its 14-member Turkish crew.

And last Monday Somali pirates hijacked another chemical tanker with 21 Filipino crew on board.

Pirates are still holding the Ukrainian ship MV Faina off the Somali coast for a ransom of $20m (£12m).

In October, 22 sailors - eight South Koreans and 14 Burmese - were freed after a month of captivity when their South Korean shipping company paid a ransom to Somali pirates.

South Korea has said it is considering sending navy vessels to waters off Somalia to protect its shipping
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And the pirates take their biggest prize yet.

Somali pirates hijack Saudi oil tanker with Britons on board
Nico Hines The Times November 17, 2008

A hijacked supertanker with two British crew members was being taken to a Somali port this afternoon after pirates seized their biggest vessel yet off the African coast.

Acts of piracy in the shipping lanes of the Arabian Sea have become increasingly violent and commonplace in recent months, but this is the first time hijackers have seized an oil tanker.

The 1,000 ft-long Sirius Star was seized on Saturday around 450 nautical miles from Mombasa on the Kenyan coast. The supertanker, which can hold up to two million barrels of crude oil, is owned by Aramco, a Saudi company, but was sailing under a Liberian flag.

The Foreign Office confirmed that two of those on board were British but could not give any details of their role on the ship.

Lieutenant Nate Christensen, of the US Navy, 5th Fleet, said that the tanker was today approaching an area of the Somali coast controlled by bandits.

“The latest information we have is that they are taking the vessel to a Somali port,” he said.

“We don’t know the condition of the crew on board or the nature of the pirates’ demands. In cases like this what we typically see is a demand for money from the ship owners but we haven’t had that yet.

“We don’t know exactly where they are taking it but we know the town of Eyl is a pirate stronghold.”

Eyl is in the northern Puntland region of Somalia, it is thought that dozens of ships are currently being held captive there.

Al-Arabyia, the Saudi-owned television station, reported this afternoon that the ship had been freed, but both the US Navy and Saudi Aramco, which owns the supertanker, said they had no knowledge of any release

The vast ship and its 25 crew, including members from the UK, Croatia, the Philippines, Poland and Saudi Arabia, have been under the command of an armed gang for two days. “The vessel is under the pirates’ control,” a spokesman for the US Navy 5th fleet in Bahrain said.

The Saudi ship, which is 330 meters (1,080 feet) long, had been headed for the United States via the Cape of Good Hope at the southern tip of Africa. The route is a main thoroughfare for fully laden supertankers from the Gulf, the world’s biggest oil exporting region.

Saudi Arabia is the largest of those exporters, sending around seven million barrels per day to into the global markets.

Pirates, often based in anarchic Somalia, have made the shipping routes off east Africa among the most dangerous in the world but this is the first time an oil tanker has been seized.

The International Maritime Bureau has reported that at least 83 ships have been attacked off Somalia since January and 33 of those were hijacked. It is believed that 12 of the vessels and more than 200 crew are still in the hands of pirates.

Earlier this month, Britain announced that it would take the lead in a multi-national taskforce designed to tackle the heavily armed gangs patrolling the Arabian Sea. One of the Royal Navy’s first interventions was to subdue a gang of pirates who tried to hijack a cargo ship off Somalia last week.

A band of Somali raiders opened fire on two Navy assault craft carrying Marines armed with machineguns. Three pirates were killed as the commandos returned fire.

In recent months the prevalence of attacks has seen a marked escalation from one every couple of weeks to as many as four in a single day.

A leading Norwegian shipping group responded to the latest attacks today by suspending its routes through the perilous region.

Terje Storeng, chief executive of Odfjell, said: “We will no longer expose our crew to the risk of being hijacked and held for ransom by pirates in the Gulf of Aden.

“The re-routing will entail extra sailing days and later cargo deliveries,” he said. “This will incur significant extra cost, but we expect our customers’ support and contribution.

“The efforts that are being made do not seem to put an effective end to what can best be described as ruthless, high level organised crime.”

The company said it would resume sailing through the Gulf of Aden and the Suez Canal once sufficient protection is in place or action is taken to prevent pirate attacks in the area.

 
Of course they haven't asked for ransom...they already have up to  2 million barrels of black gold.

Midget
 
And the South Korean Navy joins the fray as Seoul dispatches its own warship to Somali waters.

SKorea plans to send warship to combat Somali pirates

6 hours ago

SEOUL (AFP) — South Korea announced Monday it plans to send a warship to combat piracy in the lawless waters off Somalia, where five more Koreans were seized over the weekend.

The defence ministry will ask parliament to approve the deployment before its current session ends on December 8, said ministry spokesman Won Tae-Jae.

Once the mission is approved Seoul will send a 4,500-ton destroyer carrying missiles and other modern weaponry early next year, a senior official told Yonhap news agency last week.

The ship will join international efforts to combat piracy involving US and French warships, the official said.

Last week, the European Union launched an operation off the coast of Somalia to combat growing piracy and protect ships carrying aid deliveries. It is the EU's first-ever naval mission.

The foreign ministry said all the South Koreans aboard a hijacked Japanese cargo ship are safe. The 20,000-ton Chemstar Venus, with five South Koreans and 18 Filipino crewmen, was seized in the Gulf of Aden on Saturday.

"All our five crewmen... turned out to be safe," said foreign ministry spokesman Moon Tae-Young, confirming contact had been made with the kidnappers.

The spokesman refused to give other details such as whether a ransom had been demanded. The ministry says the Panamanian-registered ship is owned by a Japanese firm and its captain is Korean.

South Korean ships have frequently been targeted in the region.

Somali pirates seized a South Korean cargo ship and 22 sailors on September 10. The crew was released last month after the ship's owner paid a ransom.

Last year Somali pirates seized two South Korean vessels and 24 crew including four South Koreans.

The crew were released in November after six months in captivity. Local media reports said the pirates had demanded a ransom of five million dollars before reducing the sum to an undisclosed figure.

In April 2006 a South Korean tuna ship with 25 crew on board was hijacked. The ship and its crew were released after four months following the payment of a ransom.

The International Maritime Bureau reports at least 83 ships have been attacked off Somalia since January, of which 33 were hijacked. Of those, 12 vessels and more than 200 crew were still in the hands of pirates.

http://www.google.com/hostednews/afp/artic...GXvQ929kSCOxJBQ
 
So it's official, that the French Navy can place personnel onboard merchant vessels transiting through pirate-infested areas near Somalia.

French to patrol off Aden in EU scheme
Pirates might find themselves outgunned

FRENCH naval guards can now be put on merchant ships free of charge
while transiting the Gulf of Aden.

French navy ships might also escort the protected ships under the close protection system initiated by the EU this weekend.

Two vessels can have guards on at any time after a request from the shipowner or operator 10 days before the transit is to take place. Ships that intend to follow the protected vessels also may do so.

A statement issued via the International Maritime Bureau said: "The presence of the warships will deter pirates from attacking any vessels in the group. Vessels can also call the nearby warships for assistance when attacked by pirates."

Companies that wish to become protected will have to establish a 'technical agreement' with the French navy before any protection team is deployed.

Details can be obtained from the French Force commander staff for Indian Ocean Tel: 00 33 4 94 02 89 49 / E-mail: alindien@free.fr FRENCH naval guards can now be put on merchant ships free of charge while transiting the Gulf of Aden.

http://www.fairplay.co.uk/secure/display.a...3000000&phrase=
 
CougarDaddy said:
So it's official, that the French Navy can place personnel onboard merchant vessels transiting through pirate-infested areas near Somalia.

Nothing new nor any change from the limited use that was detailed in this post.
 
Another suspicious Iranian vessel?  ;D

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20081118/ap_on_re_af/ml_piracy

THIS IS A BREAKING NEWS UPDATE. Check back soon for further information. AP's earlier story is below.

DUBAI, United Arab Emirates (AP) — The U.S. Navy says a cargo ship has been hijacked off the Somalia coast — the latest in a series of attacks by pirates operating out of the African country.

Navy Commander Jane Campbell of the Bahrain-based 5th Fleet says the 26,000-ton bulk cargo carrier was attacked Tuesday in the Gulf of Aden.

She says the ship was flying a Hong Kong flag but is operated by the Islamic Republic of Iran Shipping Lines.


The status of the crew or its cargo were not known. Campbell says the ship is likely heading toward an anchorage site off the Somali coast.

The ship's name or other details were not immediately known.
 
So if the Saudis see action, will this be the first time ever that their Navy ever sees action?  ;D

Saudis vow to join fight against maritime piracy
11/18/2008 | 10:14 PM

MOGADISHU, Somalia - Saudi Arabia said Tuesday it will join the international fight against piracy, and a Somali official vowed to try to rescue the hijacked Saudi oil supertanker by force if necessary.

Never before have Somali pirates seized such a giant ship so far out to sea. The MV Sirius Star was hijacked Saturday with a full load of 2 million barrels of oil and 25 crewmembers. The ship's oil cargo alone is estimated to be worth $100 million.

In the first public comments by Saudi officials, Foreign Minister Prince Saud al-Faisal called the hijacking "an outrageous act" and said "piracy, like terrorism, is a disease which is against everybody, and everybody must address it together."

Speaking during a visit to Athens, he said Saudi Arabia would join an international initiative against piracy in the Red Sea area, where more than 80 pirate attacks have taken place this year. He did not elaborate on the exact steps the kingdom would take to better protect its vital oil tankers, and it was not known if the Sirius Star had a security team on board.

Abdullkadir Musa, the deputy sea port minister in northern Somalia's Puntland region, said if the ship tries to anchor anywhere near Eyl — where the U.S. said it was heading — then his forces will rescue it.

But the ship was anchored Tuesday in Harardhere, a pirate stronghold some 265 miles (430 kilometers) by land from Eyl.

"As usual, I woke up at 3 a.m. and headed for the sea to fish, but I saw a very, very large ship anchored less than 3 miles (5 kilometers) off the shore," Abdinur Haji, a fisherman, told The Associated Press in a telephone interview.

He said two small boats floated out to the ship and 18 men climbed aboard with ropes woven into a ladder.

"I have been fishing here for three decades, but I have never seen a ship as big as this one," he said. "There are dozens of spectators on shore trying to catch a glimpse of the large ship, which they can see with their naked eyes."

The supertanker is 1,080 feet long. It was seized about 450 nautical miles (833 kilometers) off the Kenyan coast.

NATO said it has no immediate plans to intercept the hijacked Saudi supertanker, which was captured outside its patrol zone.

Spokesman James Appathurai described the seizure of the 318,000-ton UAE-owned MV Sirius Star as "unprecedented in where it took place and the kind of ship it took on." He also said NATO has a mandate to fight piracy but none to board ships that have already been captured.

The Dubai-based company that owns and operates the vessel, Vela International Marine Ltd., a subsidiary of Saudi oil company Aramco, said it was "awaiting further contact from the pirates."

An earlier statement from the company said the 25 crew on board the fully loaded tanker were unharmed and that crisis teams had been set up to try to win their release and the return of the vessel.

It made no mention of a ransom, but shipping companies in the past have regularly paid out ransoms, usually totaling around $1 million, to ensure the safety of the crew and the vessel's return.- AP

http://www.gmanews.tv/story/134305/Saudis-...maritime-piracy
 
NATO Shipping Centre
http://www.shipping.nato.int

SOMALIA PIRACY UPDATE 14 November 2008
as at 171141Z NOV 2008
UNCLAS

Following a short lull in piracy incidents, possibly due to adverse weather conditions, there has been a very recent surge of incidents.

MV KAPITAN MASLOV (Container ship) was attacked on 13 November approx 300 miles east of Mombasa.
MV HARAZ (Crude Oil Carrier) was approached on 12 November.

An unconfirmed report of a suspicious approach 550 nm off the eastern coast of Somalia is being investigated. An new piracy update report will be posted on 18 November 2008.


SOMALIA PIRACY UPDATE 18 November 2008
as at 181741Z NOV 2008
UNCLAS   

Following a short lull in piracy incidents, possibly due to adverse weather conditions, there has been a very recent surge of incidents.

FV EKAWATNAVA 5 was hijacked on 18 November, and in relatively close proximity
MV DELIGHT, a 25,768 GRT Bulk carrier was hijacked in the Gulf of Aden on 18 November.
MV CHEMSTAR VENUS, a Panamese flagged Chemical tanker (11,951GRT) was hijacked in the Gulf of Aden on 15 November.
MV TS COLOMBO, a 15,095 GRT container vessel, was attacked off the East coast of Somalia on  14 November.
MV SIRIUS STAR was hijacked on 14 November off the East coast of Somalia. This crude oil carrier was one of the largest vessels to date to be taken at 162,252 GRT.
MV GOLDEN AMBROSIA, a chemical tanker, was approach on 14 November in the Gulf of Aden.
MV SHIMANAMI SUNSHINE was approached in the Gulf of Aden on  13 November, as was
MV TAI BAI HAI,a 34,882 GRT bulk carrier, which suffered multiple attacks/approaches on 12-13 November in the Gulf of Aden.

The total number of commercial vessels (including one tug) hijacked in Somali waters now stands at 14; over 200 merchant seamen are held by pirates. The use of mother-ships seems to be on the rise, and potentially, vessels are hijacked with the sole intention of using them as such.


Given the significant increase in piracy (and piracy related) incidents in the Gulf of Aden, the NATO Shipping Centre asks any ship or ship owner to report to us with any details of (perceived) suspicious activity (e.g. ships on radar shadowing their movements, changing course to intercept, changing speed to match or intercept)
 course and speed of vessel if available
 positions and date/time
 identity or description of suspicious vessel(s)
 photograph if available
Please report any such activity to the NATO Shipping Centre’s (NSC) free call centre: +44 (0)1923 843574, or by fax: +44 (0)1923 843575, or Email: info@shipping.nato.int





 
Just a matter of time till the orders are put forward to spank em hard. I'm actually shocked that they arean't already being straightened out.

Hopefully the crew members aboard these vessels are all safe and sound.

Cheers.
 
From STRATFOR http://www.stratfor.com/analysis/20081016_somalia_pirates_continuing_evolution
 
Time these mongrels are placed at the bottom of the foodchain, courtesy of some well controlled yet extreme violence.

The clock counts down... tic toc tic toc...


OWDU
 
Well...  you need the shipping that is going thru this area.
You can't reroute - so you will have to solve - and there is only one way you can do that.

A naval task force to slam down on the pirates in their "work" environment & some "predator" or "reaper" action to take away the illegal gains these fellas are able to squeeze out of the shipping companies.

Make them reconsider the worth of their career choice
 
Overwatch Downunder said:
Time these mongrels are placed at the bottom of the foodchain, courtesy of some well controlled yet extreme violence.

The clock counts down... tic toc tic toc...


OWDU

Oh OWDU How can you say that? Don't you know they have "rights"?

Seriously, I agree and I've been asking for that for some time. The lace panty brigade loves to spout about "rights" but its not their tail ends sailing those ships is it?
 
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