The War in Ukraine

[Kirkhill]

This war is change the tune on tourniquets, some 75,000 amputations were apparent required because of them.

Don's Weekly, 6 October 2025: Part 3 (Ukraine, Tourniquets, Diplomacy)

And how many people didn't bleed out because of the tourniquets?

Related: there are more amputees because more body armour is worn protecting the core. People that would have died survive but minus their unarmoured bits.

 

[Skysix]

This war is change the tune on tourniquets, some 75,000 amputations were apparent required because of them.

Don's Weekly, 6 October 2025: Part 3 (Ukraine, Tourniquets, Diplomacy)

"Blame the training not the tool' They have been over used for virtually any bleed not just arterial and unstoppable venous (with appropriate clotting gauze packing and pressure - which CAN be applied by a tourniquet but a lot less tightly. Also some studies have found loosening to get some blood flow to the limb and then tightening every 2 hours can prevent many amputations. With the caveat that IV access and some fluids are available - blood being the first choice obviously. With the prolonged evac times there needs to be more research and likely revised training at the grunt / Stop The Bleed / TCCC level

 

[daftandbarmy]

"Blame the training not the tool' They have been over used for virtually any bleed not just arterial and unstoppable (with appropriate clotting gauze packing and pressure - which CAN be applied by a tourniquet but a lot less tightly. Also some studies have found loosening to get some blood flow to the limb and then tightening every 2 hours can prevent many amputations. With the caveat that IV access and some fluids available.

The levels of Med Support are important too, of course.

If you don't have a couple of well trained company medics running the CAP, and the equivalent down the line, you're going to be in the hurt locker in more ways than one....

 

[The Bread Guy]

... With the prolonged evac times there needs to be more research and likely revised training at the grunt / Stop The Bleed / TCCC level

FAR from a medical expert (or even amateur for that matter), but I have to wonder how much of the issue is the bit in yellow. If it's significant (and I don't know, one way or another), yeah, more work needs to be done on the rules. I suspect it's already ongoing, but good point.

 

[PrairieFella]

Hopefully they take the advice and add NVG lights and a NVG / IR display screen for the driver. Those lights have been standard on CUCV etc since the early 80's

Shutters of some kind for windows and a DVE are basically essential kitting these days. It should be written right into the contract imo.