Todd and Sarah Palin to divorce
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Sweet! Where do I sign up for a date? She's my kind of woman...
Palin is certainly a nice woman, don't get me wrong. The problem I have with the current situation is that she quit. Despite how she tries to spin it (leaving because she loves Alaska?), she quit. One of the reasons was because of how the media involved her family.
I see it as, when the going got tough, Palin got going. And she has rumored to have the Presidency in her sights?
The Taliban, Russians or Chinese don't care if you were a soccer mom. Politics isn't for her anymore if you ask me.
I see it as, when the going got tough, Palin got going. And she has rumored to have the Presidency in her sights?
The Taliban, Russians or Chinese don't care if you were a soccer mom. Politics isn't for her anymore if you ask me.
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Quitting or positioning? Most politicians do much the same thing. Quit one position to get in place, and consolidate, for a run at another. It's all in the eye of the beholder I guess.
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There is no divorce. This was another lefty lie planted by a blogger,since debunked. The democrats are terrified of Palin and have worked ceaselessly to destroy her. They certainly have run her out of office with their bogus "ethics" complaints. I suspect that she will be a candidate in 2012 for President. By that time the public will be so disgusted with the democrats they wont be listening to the lies and smears about Palin.
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President Obama quit the Senate to become the President. He did not complete his first term, nor introduce ANY legislation.
Former President Clinton quit seeing Monica.
President Obama quit the Senate to become the President. He did not complete his first term, nor introduce ANY legislation.
Former President Clinton quit seeing Monica.
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She can drive a truck, and probably a quad and a snowmobile. She can shoot. Can she handle high explosives?popnfresh said:
My kinda woman indeed!! >
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OldSoldier said:She can drive a truck, and probably a quad and a snowmobile. She can shoot. Can she handle high explosives?
My kinda woman indeed!! >
The Republicans haven't seen anyone like her come along since Ronald Reagan came to national attention in 1964.
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Her resignation speech: http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2009/07/03/sarah-palin-resignation-s_n_225557.html
Of course it's what she says happen, but personally I believe her side. You can differ. Why, see the second quote from her speech.
Some say things changed for me on August 29th last year - the day John McCain tapped me to be his running-mate - I say others changed.
Let me speak to that for a minute.
Political operatives descended on Alaska last August, digging for dirt. The ethics law I championed became their weapon of choice. Over the past nine months I've been accused of all sorts of frivolous ethics violations - such as holding a fish in a photograph, wearing a jacket with a logo on it, and answering reporters' questions.
Every one - all 15 of the ethics complaints have been dismissed. We've won! But it hasn't been cheap - the State has wasted THOUSANDS of hours of YOUR time and shelled out some two million of YOUR dollars to respond to "opposition research" - that's money NOT going to fund teachers or troopers - or safer roads. And this political absurdity, the "politics of personal destruction" ... Todd and I are looking at more than half a million dollars in legal bills in order to set the record straight. And what about the people who offer up these silly accusations? It doesn't cost them a dime so they're not going to stop draining public resources - spending other peoples' money in their game.
It's pretty insane - my staff and I spend most of our day dealing with THIS instead of progressing our state now. I know I promised no more "politics as usual," but THIS isn't what anyone had in mind for ALASKA.
It is now 17 ethics complaints.
Now, how about this:
Palin opened her speech with what she called "some straight talk," taking on the media (and then Hollywood).
You represent what could and should be a respected, honest profession, and what could and should be a cornerstone of our democracy -- and that's why our troops are willing to die for you.
So how about in honor of the American solider you quit making things up?
Google her speech and you will see the LTL media, the heavy weights from Vanity Fair, the late night show hosts, Hollywood are all over it.
Yep, the are afraid.
Of course it's what she says happen, but personally I believe her side. You can differ. Why, see the second quote from her speech.
Some say things changed for me on August 29th last year - the day John McCain tapped me to be his running-mate - I say others changed.
Let me speak to that for a minute.
Political operatives descended on Alaska last August, digging for dirt. The ethics law I championed became their weapon of choice. Over the past nine months I've been accused of all sorts of frivolous ethics violations - such as holding a fish in a photograph, wearing a jacket with a logo on it, and answering reporters' questions.
Every one - all 15 of the ethics complaints have been dismissed. We've won! But it hasn't been cheap - the State has wasted THOUSANDS of hours of YOUR time and shelled out some two million of YOUR dollars to respond to "opposition research" - that's money NOT going to fund teachers or troopers - or safer roads. And this political absurdity, the "politics of personal destruction" ... Todd and I are looking at more than half a million dollars in legal bills in order to set the record straight. And what about the people who offer up these silly accusations? It doesn't cost them a dime so they're not going to stop draining public resources - spending other peoples' money in their game.
It's pretty insane - my staff and I spend most of our day dealing with THIS instead of progressing our state now. I know I promised no more "politics as usual," but THIS isn't what anyone had in mind for ALASKA.
It is now 17 ethics complaints.
Now, how about this:
Palin opened her speech with what she called "some straight talk," taking on the media (and then Hollywood).
You represent what could and should be a respected, honest profession, and what could and should be a cornerstone of our democracy -- and that's why our troops are willing to die for you.
So how about in honor of the American solider you quit making things up?
Google her speech and you will see the LTL media, the heavy weights from Vanity Fair, the late night show hosts, Hollywood are all over it.
Yep, the are afraid.
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A large part of Democratic Party success relies on two things - getting out all its supporters to vote (which is why they mobilize huge groups of volunteers to help people register and get them to the polls), and trying to find a way to get one of the constituent groups of the GOP to stay home. If they can, for example, persuade the crazed religious right to stay home en masse, it helps them immensely.
The fact is that there's so much ludicrous mudslinging on both sides that it almost would make for good TV - well, I guess it does - but it's just a sideshow. The Right blames Obama for everything they can (which is pretty ludicrous, the recession started before he took office and the US' budget mess is a product of the last eight years of mismanagement, including the channelling of trillions of dollars into a war that was based on lies and deception. Rove, Bush, and Cheney engineered the selling of a personal vendetta to the American public, greatly enriching themselves in the process.
Even now, as Obama tries to move forward on his own goals - which it seems he has a mandate from the American public to do - the debate is being skewed and delayed by absolutely atrocious propaganda efforts led by insurance industry lobbies and "astroturf" groups. Then there is the utterly ridiculous birther movement. Arguing about their validity makes about as much sense as arguing about the colour of unicorns, a friend told me yesterday.
The fact is that there's so much ludicrous mudslinging on both sides that it almost would make for good TV - well, I guess it does - but it's just a sideshow. The Right blames Obama for everything they can (which is pretty ludicrous, the recession started before he took office and the US' budget mess is a product of the last eight years of mismanagement, including the channelling of trillions of dollars into a war that was based on lies and deception. Rove, Bush, and Cheney engineered the selling of a personal vendetta to the American public, greatly enriching themselves in the process.
Even now, as Obama tries to move forward on his own goals - which it seems he has a mandate from the American public to do - the debate is being skewed and delayed by absolutely atrocious propaganda efforts led by insurance industry lobbies and "astroturf" groups. Then there is the utterly ridiculous birther movement. Arguing about their validity makes about as much sense as arguing about the colour of unicorns, a friend told me yesterday.
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True, but Obama left the Senate to pursue his candidacy as President. Palin is not pursuing anything. She made it clear with her speech that she is stepping down because of the pressures she is under.
I wouldn't want someone like this to run the free world. If she couldn't hack some personal issues with reporters, how will she be able to deal with international politics and enemies who will exploit that weakness?
Like I said, she is a great lady, and the governor of Alaska spot suited her. The oval office, IMO, would not.
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Dude, it was a bit "more" than "some" personal issues. It was a smear campaign, and I would love to see you (or I) attempt to last as long as she did.Xiang said:
The current POTUS can get away with virtual murder right now because of mainly one thing: his race. The media don't know how to criticise him (or his actions) for the fear of appearing racist. Well, they *do* criticise him to some ends; however, a blind man can see that he is being treated with virtual "kid gloves" compared to G.W. Bush and all the others before him.
Well, the left blamed (and continue to blame) G.W., Rove, Cheney et al for everything from 9-11 to the war in Iraq to Global Warming, and I'm surprised that they haven't blamed the death of Michael Jackson on them either! Let us (and you) not forget that Congress authorised the president's action in Iraq, and that it was a popular move in the US (and in Canada, at least up until a few months prior to the invasion). Let us try to pretend that it was a personal agenda. There are too many checks and balances in the US system for that to happen.
Iraq only became unpopular when Al Qaeda in Iraq fanned the flames there. Let us also not forget that (surprise!) the war is virtually over there, but Afghanistan drags on. Last month: something like 7 Military deaths in Iraq. We all know that Canada alone has lost close to that number within the last month in Afghanistan. Then again, nobody likes losing, and I'm not saying that GW et al ran the tightest ship out there, but I stand by my support of their decision to go into Iraq (although I had been saying "Go back to Iraq" since the mid 90s).
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I was going to say the same, but personally did not want to get into defending everything I post which becomes boring to others.
You said it, and I will add ones family to "you (or I)".
I was going to say the same, but personally did not want to get into defending everything I post which becomes boring to others.
You said it, and I will add ones family to "you (or I)".
GWB went through everything from being called a murderer, a war criminal to a reptilian shape shifter from the planet Alpha Draconis. He was demonized by the US media, and a lot of his own citizens.
It comes with the territory of being a politician. One side of the political/media spectrum will support you, and the other will do what they can to discredit you.
If Palin folded over some ethics accusations, a wardrobe scandal and having her morals called out after her daughter got pregnant, I would hate to see how long she would last if she were exposed to the same sort of global demonetization GWB was.
Not only did Bush endure it and not let it get to him, but he even went on to win a second term. That's what a strong leader does.
We'll just have to agree to disagree I guess.
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I'd like to think the media could criticize him objectively without it being spun into a racial issue, but there's a lot of reason that's wishful thinking.
As for Iraq there was a personal agenda at play - and a lot of self interest on the parts of key players. Bush's inner circle fabricated the reasons for the invasion. While long-term Iraq may well end up better off, it was pretty clear that it was going to be a mess. Wolfowicz et al expected that it'd be simple, that they wouldn't need a massive force to occupy. That there would be a torrent of sectarian violence unleashed was clear to anyone with an understanding of the region - and of multiethnic states run by totalitarian strongmen (think Yugoslavia post-Tito).
One must wonder what sort of shape Afghanistan would be in if it didn't become a sideshow when America committed to the Iraq War. I'm not suggesting the US abandoned Afghanistan entirely like some on the left think - but it definitely played second fiddle.
As for Iraq there was a personal agenda at play - and a lot of self interest on the parts of key players. Bush's inner circle fabricated the reasons for the invasion. While long-term Iraq may well end up better off, it was pretty clear that it was going to be a mess. Wolfowicz et al expected that it'd be simple, that they wouldn't need a massive force to occupy. That there would be a torrent of sectarian violence unleashed was clear to anyone with an understanding of the region - and of multiethnic states run by totalitarian strongmen (think Yugoslavia post-Tito).
One must wonder what sort of shape Afghanistan would be in if it didn't become a sideshow when America committed to the Iraq War. I'm not suggesting the US abandoned Afghanistan entirely like some on the left think - but it definitely played second fiddle.
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I thought they said that GW was from Alpha Centauri, but that's neither here nor there.Xiang said:
I find a huge difference in between what was said of GW and what was done to Palin. GW's family wasn't dragged into things as much as Palin's, and she has been fighting off frivolous lawsuits, whereas GW could ignore criticisms of him by switching off the TV.
GW was criticised for his actions (rightly or wrongly). Palin has been critised for being. That's the main difference I think.
ANyway, to keep on topic: I don't think they are divorcing :-X
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Xiang said:
I think you're being purposely simplistic, rather like Letterman et al. Don't like her? Fine, but don't treat us like morons ok? Your Democrat style misdirection has already gotten old.
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Apparently, the original SNL parody has been removed from Youtube. But, Hillary had something to say on the subject:
http://politicalhumor.about.com/od/hillaryclintonvideos/youtube/hillary-pillow.htm
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Maybe I'm old school, but I think there's something to knowing that the person running the country is smarter than I am that has a certain appeal... it's like watching the CFL, it's good football, until you realize that the linemen make less than you do. Sarah Palin is a charming person, but frankly, she is far too uneducated to run the free world.Dennis Ruhl said:
