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Tribunal won't hear complaint over chopper deal

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HALIFAX â ” A federal tribunal has rejected a company's request to hear a complaint that raises questions about Ottawa's handling of a $5-billion contract to replace the military's fleet of aging Sea King helicopters.

AgustaWestland Inc., the leading company in an Italian-British consortium, originally brought allegations of political interference to the Federal Court on Sept. 1.

However, the court told the company it had to first ask the Canadian International Trade Tribunal if it would hear the case.

On Thursday, the tribunal declined, saying the company took too long to file its arguments.

But a lawyer for AgustaWestland says the battle is far from over.

Gordon Cameron said he'll bring the case back to Federal Court on Dec. 4.

AgustaWestland's bid for its Cormorant helicopters to replace the Sea Kings was originally rejected this summer in favour of a bid by rival Sikorsky Aircraft Corp, based in the United States.

Since then, the company has taken legal action to force Ottawa to hand it the deal or start the decade-long process over again.

In its 19-page Federal Court application, filed Sept. 1, the company charged that the government's bid evaluation was "biased, unfair and contrary to the rules of the procurement.''

It also accused the ruling Liberals of deliberately skewing the selection to avoid the "embarrassment'' of picking its EH-101 helicopter, which the Liberal government had rejected as an unaffordable luxury in 1993.

The documents contend that Sikorsky's helicopter faces a major redesign, and won't be ready in time to meet the government's four-year delivery deadline.

None of these allegations has been proven in court.

Lloyd Noseworthy, a spokesman for Sikorsky (NYSE:UTC), rejected the allegations.

"We know what it takes, and we will deliver the first aircraft in November 2008,'' he said in an interview. "We will be there on time.''

The contract requires Sikorsky to build 28 helicopters and begin delivering one per month starting in November 2008 -- four years after the deal was signed.

Defence Minister Bill Graham and Public Works Minister Scott Brison announced the government's decision to buy the Sikorsky H-92 -- later dubbed the Cyclone -- last July before an audience of Sea King pilots in Nova Scotia.

They said buying the Cyclone was a better bargain than purchasing the larger, three-engine EH-101 Cormorant.

Under the contract, the last of the Cyclones is expected be delivered in 2011 -- almost 50 years after the first Sea King took to the air over Shearwater.

Meanwhile, the existing Sea King fleet -- involved in four fatal crashes that have claimed at least seven lives over 10 years -- will require about 30 hours of maintenance for every hour of flying time.

The contract is the latest step in a saga that began in the 1980s, when the Defence Department set out to replace the CH-124 Sea King -- also a Sikorsky product.
 
Well I guess that's a step in the right direction, that being us getting our helos. I'm kind of wondering when the construction crews are going to show up here to start building the new complex and renovating D hangar. It's going to be a messy place around here for the next few years.
 
HALIFAX â ” A federal tribunal has rejected a company's request to hear a complaint that raises questions about Ottawa's handling of a $5-billion contract to replace the military's fleet of aging Sea King helicopters

I bet that they were told that they'd be fired down to the last man if they entertained that complaint. The Liberal govt. really knows how to train its lapdogs.

Slim
 
Slim said:
HALIFAX â ” A federal tribunal has rejected a company's request to hear a complaint that raises questions about Ottawa's handling of a $5-billion contract to replace the military's fleet of aging Sea King helicopters

I bet that they were told that they'd be fired down to the last man if they entertained that complaint. The Liberal govt. really knows how to train its lapdogs.

Slim

I don't suppose you would even entertain the possibility that Sikorsky actually might have a good product?
 
Inch said:
Well I guess that's a step in the right direction, that being us getting our helos. I'm kind of wondering when the construction crews are going to show up here to start building the new complex and renovating D hangar. It's going to be a messy place around here for the next few years.

What do you mean- next few years?    

It looks like an abandoned Soviet airbase now... ;)
 
How right you are, I meant that we'd be purposely ripping stuff down, not stuff falling down on it's own!

16/34 is permanently closed leaving just the one runway, 10/28. We got a friggin monsoon today, D Hangar was leaking like a sieve (man that word looks weird written out). The HQ is nice, that's about it. That's all gonna change though.  ;D
 
I don't suppose you would even entertain the possibility that Sikorsky actually might have a good product?

Sikorsky has a fine name in the industry and has created and sold many good platforms over the years, however;

The aircraft doesn't even exist yet, except on paper. I would be going with what's known rather than what's going to be designed sometime in the future. The EH101 is an excellent aircraft that has a wide multi-role capability. The Cyclone is a design on a drawing board and nothing else.

This latest round of nonesense is just the last bleat of a corrupt process designed to keep egg off of the liberal govt. face and nothing more.

Slim
 
the company has taken legal action to force Ottawa to hand it the deal or start the decade-long process over again

Before the contract was awarded, I was heavily in favour of the EH-101. You win some and lose some though. Grown-ups deal with it and move on. All the company is doing now is showing that it has absolutely no regard for Canada's needs.

Honestly, the more they act like little children the more I'm glad my choice of the two helos didn't get picked. Think about how important it is for Canada to get the Sea Kings replaced. Now look at the quote above again, and tell me you want long-term dealings with this company.

For me personally, I'm of the opinion that relying on someone who clearly doesn't give a rats ass about your needs is a bad idea. I don't know what wreck their train of thought had, but how do they expect to get "these people obviously care deeply about what's best for us, let's give them money" in response to "we don't give a crap how much we drag you down so long as we get paid"???
 
Well lets remember here, Sikorsky has designed and built many helos before, including Canada's now aging fleet of Sea King Helos. They've been around for well over the time I've been alive and I trust that they can get this thing off the ground. Furthermore, why would Sikorsky sign onto a contract with such heavy penalties if it knew it couldn't get the aircraft of the ground within 4 years? $100 000/day is a lot of money to be fined.
Its just about time we got new, safer helos for the aircrew that so loyaly serve and protect this country.
 
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